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Old 06-10-2012, 04:33 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Vaccines are NOT safe. STOP spreading Big Government propaganda. Naturalnews.com itself has countless horror stories about vaccines. Take as many vaccines all over your body as you like, but DON'T tell me what me or my family can do to our bodies.
Vaccines have eradicated many crippling and deadly diseases. Would you like to see polio make a come back?
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Old 06-10-2012, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Greater Washington, DC
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As scary as this is, it's very very important to note that Romney is NOT set to reverse any of this. Tell me ONE thing in this which Romney has campaigned against or has said he will reverse, and if you can't, then that alone should tell you that things won't be any different under Romney. This is more of an indictment of Big Government rather than a D vs. R thing. Both parties promote Big Gubmint.
But see, you consider the difference between trillion dollar deficits and a balanced budget to be only a "cosmetic difference" so I don't even know what to say anymore.

One thing I will grant you, Obama and Romney have differing ideologies but they are very much within the same paradigm, while Ron Paul is viewing things through an entirely different paradigm. But within the pardigm, Rmney and Obama are very different
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Old 06-10-2012, 06:43 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The one BIG reason to Re-Elect Obama?


Mitt Romney
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:26 AM
 
Location: NC
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But see, you consider the difference between trillion dollar deficits and a balanced budget to be only a "cosmetic difference" so I don't even know what to say anymore.

One thing I will grant you, Obama and Romney have differing ideologies but they are very much within the same paradigm, while Ron Paul is viewing things through an entirely different paradigm. But within the pardigm, Rmney and Obama are very different
I swear, if I could have a dime for every time a video was posted asking folks to watch it, and subsequently some know-it-all would comment without watching that video, I would be a rich man. News for you - the video was not talking about deficits or budgets.

The paradigm within which Obama, Romney and you live, is called 'Status Quo'. I want to have nothing to do with status quo. I want out. Besides, Romney won't ever balance the budget considering he wants to raise military spending to cold-war levels. That alone undercuts all of his false promises. The Paul Ryan plan increases the deficit by $4 Trillion, not decrease it. I don't want more wars and I want spending cuts. Romney does not offer these.

"War has all the characteristics of socialism most conservatives hate: Centralized power, state planning, false rationalism, restricted liberties, foolish optimism about intended results, and blindness to unintended secondary results." - Joseph Sobran
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Reality
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This failed Obama presidency has embarrassed this nation and everyone who supported his false claims of hope and change, this nation can't begin to recover from his failure until he's voted out of office in November of this year. Once this embarrassment loses this country will look back at his only term as a great learning experience on what not to do in the future. Democrats will be pushed back into the shadows where their horrible plans and ignorant ideas belong.
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Old 06-10-2012, 12:12 PM
 
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Vaccines are NOT safe. STOP spreading Big Government propaganda. Naturalnews.com itself has countless horror stories about vaccines. Take as many vaccines all over your body as you like, but DON'T tell me what me or my family can do to our bodies.
Really? Wow, I didn't realize that you're a medical doctor. Where did you get your MD? Where did you do your residency? What's your specialty?

What's that? You didn't go to medical school? Oh, did you do a PhD in biology? You sound like a medical researcher. Oh, you didn't do a degree like that? Oh, you didn't go to college at all? Did you do well in high school? No particularly?

Unless doctors are all in on the conspiracy then I'd say that you're full of it. In hospitals, all medical staff have to get those immunizations.

You know those smart people who went to college to whom you'd go running if you were really sick. Yeah those guys. They say immunizations are safe. Why the heck would anyone listen to your tin foil hat opinions over theirs?

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Vaccines have eradicated many crippling and deadly diseases. Would you like to see polio make a come back?
That's the problem with so many of the less intelligent, tin foil hat wearing types. They don't realize that things are how they are right now because we do certain things.
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Old 06-10-2012, 12:43 PM
 
Location: NC
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Really? Wow, I didn't realize that you're a medical doctor. Where did you get your MD? Where did you do your residency? What's your specialty?

What's that? You didn't go to medical school? Oh, did you do a PhD in biology? You sound like a medical researcher. Oh, you didn't do a degree like that? Oh, you didn't go to college at all? Did you do well in high school? No particularly?

Unless doctors are all in on the conspiracy then I'd say that you're full of it. In hospitals, all medical staff have to get those immunizations.

You know those smart people who went to college to whom you'd go running if you were really sick. Yeah those guys. They say immunizations are safe. Why the heck would anyone listen to your tin foil hat opinions over theirs?

That's the problem with so many of the less intelligent, tin foil hat wearing types. They don't realize that things are how they are right now because we do certain things.
You don't get the point, do you? I could be an Economist, but I don't get to tell you how to run your finances. You could be a doctor, but you don't get to force people to follow what you think is the best medical advice. I can get to be a complete rebel and ignore all advice around me. That's my prerogative and NOYFB. Ah, you trust Big GUBMINT and Big Pharma to know what's best for you, don't you?

P.S: Plenty of doctors have spoken out against immunizations, so it's not even like my argument is with zero merit. Google it.
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Old 06-10-2012, 02:35 PM
 
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No I get your point and stand by my previous statements. You noted that, "Vaccines are NOT safe". You give no data to prove this and you should leave medical statements for those who are actually educated and who are medical professionals.

This country has plenty of low income, poorly educated, tea bagger, tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist types who think they know more about medicine than physicians. They don't. I'll stick to the opinions of intelligent people who make up their mind based on information and rational thought instead of the others who are typically just emotional morons.

It has nothing to do with big government or anything like that. It has to do with protecting the overall population from dangerous diseases that have been wiped out because of vaccinations.

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This failed Obama presidency has embarrassed this nation and everyone who supported his false claims of hope and change, this nation can't begin to recover from his failure until he's voted out of office in November of this year. Once this embarrassment loses this country will look back at his only term as a great learning experience on what not to do in the future. Democrats will be pushed back into the shadows where their horrible plans and ignorant ideas belong.
Grow a set and prove what you're saying. The failure person you're talking about kept doing what the Republican before him proposed and did basically the same thing as the Republican he competed with was pushing forward.

In terms of this race, the 'Obamacare' that unintelligent conservatives whine about was actually put forward by Republicans in the 90's and was passed by the Republican nominee in his state.

In terms of the economic recovery, the financial collapse was caused by those who championed the idea that regulation is bad. That wasn't the Democrats.

It's unfortunate that so many people who call themselves conservatives in this country are so clueless and emotionally driven. It drowns out the real conservatives in the country who don't give a damn about social issues and want politicians in the Republican party to be held accountable for poor policy or trying to put their own political gain ahead of actually getting work done.
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Old 06-10-2012, 04:32 PM
 
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As scary as this is, it's very very important to note that Romney is NOT set to reverse any of this. Tell me ONE thing in this which Romney has campaigned against or has said he will reverse, and if you can't, then that alone should tell you that things won't be any different under Romney. This is more of an indictment of Big Government rather than a D vs. R thing. Both parties promote Big Gubmint.
I hate both Obama and Romney. I have never once endorsed either. I am staying home on election day. In other words, I agree with you.
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Old 06-10-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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I could not get by the first reason because of the absolutely stupid and childish nature of the presentation. Absolutely incredible the stupidity that comes from the Right in their view of reality.
Sorry, but naturalnews.com is far from a right wing sight. Try again All these links are from naturalnews.com

Banana Republicans: How the Right Wing Is Turning America into a One-Party State

US Constitution repealed by traitorous Senators; 'Republican party now the Gestapo party' says observer

Republican committee targets organic farmers for funding cuts, avoids Big Ag subsidies

Republicans to strike 'civil liberties' and 'civil rights' from subcommittee

Republican-led Medicare reform bill is a massive taxpayer-funded handout to drug companies
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