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The RP supporters you know represent the minority, or what we call "soft support". We never include them in our strategies and calculations anyway. Now don't go telling me that you know more RP supporters than I do. :-p None of them are voting for Romney, trust me. You can always find an exception, but it is what it is - an exception, not the norm.
Rand is not Ron, I'll give you that. But I'll take him over warmonger Romney any day. Did the Romney campaign tell you go forth, stir the waters and see if you get to catch any fish, in this situation?
Nice try.
I've noticed the same thing as Dixie. But keep in mind when I say "Ron Paul supporter" I mean any individual that voted for him/planned to vote for him/wanted him to win the GOP primary. Maybe at includes these so called "soft supporters," but keep in mind that without soft supporters, all teh hard work of the hard core guys would translate into very few votes. Most of the supporters I know have moved on to Romney or Obama. One of my best friends was active in the Paul campaign, went up to NH for a week in January to campaign full time as an intern. He's no Romney fan but he's voting for him. Another friend of mine supported Paul and doesn't like either Romney or Obama and will be voting for Obama. The fact is, most Paul supporters have moved on. I don't know that we necessarily disagree, I just think you might call the ones that are voting for someone else (which is a majority) soft supporters. But soft supporters make up the majority of any campaign.
I think it has finely sunk in that there are in fact rules in the GOP convention that:
#1 Specifically allow for delegates bound to the state popular votes
#2 Specifically mention that the GOP party leaders will resolve in disputes between interpretation of rules
#3 Specifically mention that the GOP party leaders can scrap the entire convention even mid-voting to hand pick the best candidate themselves
Considering all of the above, there is no way that Ron Paul who has won ZERO state popular votes would be allowed to beat Romney who has won over 40 contests' popular votes.
I'll rephrase your sentence and say that WE had no choice but to let him endorse Romney if we ever want Rand to be president one day. No Ron Paul supporter I know is going to vote for Romney because of this endorsement - like literally ZERO, so it's not like we are giving away our votes to Romney because of this. At the same time, we have kind of covered our asses for 2016 so that the other candidates don't repeatedly slam Rand in the debates saying that he never endorsed Romney back then, and that helped elect Obama. Even if Obama wins now, Rand is safe. Otherwise, we will never hear the end of it from the neocons "argghh how dare you helped elect Obbbaammmaaaa...".
I don't know of a single person who doesn't know the difference between Ron and Rand. Your argument makes no sense. It's voting for RON that cost America. Rand had nothing to do with it and won't have anything to do with it this time, either.
I think it has finely sunk in that there are in fact rules in the GOP convention that:
#1 Specifically allow for delegates bound to the state popular votes
#2 Specifically mention that the GOP party leaders will resolve in disputes between interpretation of rules
#3 Specifically mention that the GOP party leaders can scrap the entire convention even mid-voting to hand pick the best candidate themselves
Considering all of the above, there is no way that Ron Paul who has won ZERO state popular votes would be allowed to beat Romney who has won over 40 contests' popular votes.
Romney is the nominee period.
I am still trying to figure out how the Paul supporters can argue this? Of course delegates have to vote the way the state voted in the states that held primaries. We are not talking caucus states, that is a little different...Even then, Romney has his share of delegates from those states as well.
I am still trying to figure out how the Paul supporters can argue this? Of course delegates have to vote the way the state voted in the states that held primaries. We are not talking caucus states, that is a little different...Even then, Romney has his share of delegates from those states as well.
Nita
Nita, you forget....
We are all free people, bound by no one, but our creator.
The small attendance at Romney speeches, compared to the crowds when Ron Paul makes an appearance.
You really think all the Romney delegates, are hardcore Romneybots? I got news for you... They aren't. I am going as a Romney delegate!!!!! What does that tell you?
The grassroots has had the strategy we are pulling off, planned for 4 years, after we saw how the establishment runs the delegate selection process.
Revolutions don't follow rules set by those they are revolting against.
What State are you a delegate from? What? Why didn't you get involved?
I'll rephrase your sentence and say that WE had no choice but to let him endorse Romney if we ever want Rand to be president one day. No Ron Paul supporter I know is going to vote for Romney because of this endorsement - like literally ZERO, so it's not like we are giving away our votes to Romney because of this. At the same time, we have kind of covered our asses for 2016 so that the other candidates don't repeatedly slam Rand in the debates saying that he never endorsed Romney back then, and that helped elect Obama. Even if Obama wins now, Rand is safe. Otherwise, we will never hear the end of it from the neocons "argghh how dare you helped elect Obbbaammmaaaa...".
Sure. It didn't change my mind about Romney either.
I see you've moved on, from Ron Paul to Romney. Republican establishment wins again.
Ron Paul... the useful idiot.
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