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Romney can't either. The economy, again, is bigger than any one president. It's illogical and shortsighted to continue to blame a sitting president for the fact that you can't get a job in a GLOBAL economic downturn.
do you deny that Obama has blamed GWB for the current economic mess?
Bush really isn't to blame either. The economic mess was put into motion over a few decades by many people on both sides of the political aisle. No one should be pointing the finger solely at Bush anymore than blaming Obama for not being able to fix it.
Romney can't either. The economy, again, is bigger than any one president. It's illogical and shortsighted to continue to blame a sitting president for the fact that you can't get a job in a GLOBAL economic downturn.
Perhaps you can't BLAME the sitting president but that sure aint a good reason to vote for him again!
Obama did fix it. Almost all the jobs Bush lost have been gained back. The stock market has regained all it lost and then some. Revenues are up and the deficit is falling. Gas prices are significantly lower than they were in 2008. Kids scores are improving in our schools. Corporations are making record profits and the rich have never had it better - makes one wonder what they are complaining about.
Gas prices saw as rapid spike downward in 2008 right before Barack Obama took office. They've steadily gone back up since. What did Barry do to drive the gas prices down since taking office? Did anything he tried actually work? Sure doesn't look like it. Prices at the pump are WAAAY higher than when he took office.
The Labor Participation Rate (ie the percentage of US citizens who are actually employed) has been dropping steadily since Obama took office. Unlike unemployment rates, the Labor Participation Rate doesn't stop counting you when you have given up looking for work. And the stock market is a lousy indicator of how well the average American is doing BTW. You can outsource all your labor force to India and China and turn in record profits. This does not tell the tale of all the American workers that got fired in the process.
It isn't enough to have a net addition to jobs. You have to outpace the growth of the US population -- and Obama hasn't done that.
Obama's performance the debt and deficit spending have been even more criminal than George W, the man who he threw under the bus on the issue. I have no idea how you can spin his record on this as a good thing. Keep borrowing as much as the idiot who came before you + adding more borrowing on top of that = You're a fiscally irresponsible idiot. We're broke and Barry can't even fathom the notion of a Balanced Budget Amendment. He could easily make any "addicted to spending/shopping" reality shows with his record. Unfortunately, we're the ones that will be left paying the tab, not Barrack.
If I vote for Romney or somebody other than Obama, it will be because Obama is a failed president. He promised big and the American people trusted him when he said he could deliver. Dragging the racism card into it just makes you look like an idiot.
If the man had delivered on his big promises -- Economic recovery, reversing the trend of outsourcing, getting gas prices down, better pay for all working Americans, getting a handle on the deficit and the debt, etc -- then he would be unbeatable in his bid for re-election. But he failed to do what he said he would do. What on earth does that have to do with racism?
This year, Dems are so determined to shift the focus of the election away from Barack Obama's horrible record as president. Why do you think that is?
Probably because they understand that a lot of people are like you and don't understand that all candidates make promises to get elected. Romney is making the same promises Obama did 4 years ago, and yet, should he win, he will have no more control over most of these issues than Obama has. If the economy recovers over the next 4 years, it won't be because there was a change in the Oval Office.
Perhaps you can't BLAME the sitting president but that sure aint a good reason to vote for him again!
That's why I'm not going to focus on economic issues when considering a president. Neither one of them are going to change anything in that regard, not when so many external factors are beyond their control. Even domestically, presidents still have to deal with a Congress that couldn't agree on what color the sky is, so even if they could do a lot, the chances that much gets accomplished in a hyper-partisan government remains pretty much nil. I'd rather focus on foreign policy, individual freedoms, education, etc. And I'd much rather have Obama choosing Supreme Court justices than Romney. The nation is already regressing on social issues. I have no intention of voting for someone who will regress us even more.
That's why I'm not going to focus on economic issues when considering a president. Neither one of them are going to change anything in that regard, not when so many external factors are beyond their control. Even domestically, presidents still have to deal with a Congress that couldn't agree on what color the sky is, so even if they could do a lot, the chances that much gets accomplished in a hyper-partisan government remains pretty much nil. I'd rather focus on foreign policy, individual freedoms, education, etc. And I'd much rather have Obama choosing Supreme Court justices than Romney. The nation is already regressing on social issues. I have no intention of voting for someone who will regress us even more.
Well said but I think you are in the minority. Most voters are very short sighted and will vote on their current IMPACT vs what they think or don't think might happen with the SCOTUS.
Gas prices saw as rapid spike downward in 2008 right before Barack Obama took office. They've steadily gone back up since. What did Barry do to drive the gas prices down since taking office? Did anything he tried actually work? Sure doesn't look like it. Prices at the pump are WAAAY higher than when he took office.
Prices usually crash when the world economy is crashing. It creates a market of too much supply and too little demand, lowering prices. They've risen since because of aslowly improving economy, tensions in the Middle East (par for the course), and simply higher consumption.
The Labor Participation Rate (ie the percentage of US citizens who are actually employed) has been dropping steadily since Obama took office. Unlike unemployment rates, the Labor Participation Rate doesn't stop counting you when you have given up looking for work. And the stock market is a lousy indicator of how well the average American is doing BTW. You can outsource all your labor force to India and China and turn in record profits. This does not tell the tale of all the American workers that got fired in the process.
This also tends to happen in a massive economic downturn like we went through through 2009 and 2010. These were going to happen regardless of an Obama or McCain presidency. And by all recent accounts, because of China's changing economy and rising costs, manufacturing is actually making a tentative return to the US.
It isn't enough to have a net addition to jobs. You have to outpace the growth of the US population -- and Obama hasn't done that.
Obama's performance the debt and deficit spending have been even more criminal than George W, the man who he threw under the bus on the issue. I have no idea how you can spin his record on this as a good thing. Keep borrowing as much as the idiot who came before you + adding more borrowing on top of that = You're a fiscally irresponsible idiot. We're broke and Barry can't even fathom the notion of a Balanced Budget Amendment. He could easily make any "addicted to spending/shopping" reality shows with his record. Unfortunately, we're the ones that will be left paying the tab, not Barrack.
Obama cannot singlehandedly pull jobs out of his *ss. No president can, and this argument is tired and ridiculous. Also, a very large chunk of the debt increase since 2008 has been related to the economic downturn, not necessarily spending. A lot of people see a debt increase and seem to believe it can only come from too much spending, but that's just not reality.
Well said but I think you are in the minority. Most voters are very short sighted and will vote on their current IMPACT vs what they think or don't think might happen with the SCOTUS.
I know. It's just some of the reasoning here boggles the mind. People do not look at the big picture.
The left's blinders are working as good as always for them.
And for no other reason than SC picks I'll vote Romney. Compared to the two whack jobs the jug-eared little barry has picked Romney will make FAR better choices. The dopes who ***** about social regression are simply clueless.
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