Obama immigration initiative knocks Team Romney into corner pocket (employment, voters, Iran)
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Obama has erased the "enthusiasm gap" (from now to 2008) among Hispanics in key battleground states.
And did you see Romney on Face the Nation??? Here it is, Monday, and he STILL doesn't know what what to say. Does he stick to the "let um self deport" hard line that helped him in the primaries with his mistrustful base? Or does he tack toward moderation, supporting Rubio's "Keep Dreaming" initiative ( which Rubio admits is now on hold, thanks to Obama), as he seemed to be about to do, till Friday.
Wow, I've never SEEN a pol knocked for a loop like this before. Romney looks like he got hit in the head by a fastball. His team of dolts had ALL WEEKEND to come up with something, ANYTHING!!!
Gee, if Obama can knock the Romney team for a loop like this, what's the Ayatollah of Iran gonna do?
Yeah, Romney was speechless because he supports the same plan unbeknown to Republicans.
What Romney REALLY believes about immigration is, like all of his other " real" positions, kind of irrelevant. What counts is, to whom is he going to pander, the RW or Latino voters?
In this case, Obama really put him behind the 8 ball- and three days and counting, his team has NO RESPONSE.
Obama has erased the "enthusiasm gap" (from now to 2008) among Hispanics in key battleground states.
And did you see Romney on Face the Nation??? Here it is, Monday, and he STILL doesn't know what what to say. Does he stick to the "let um self deport" hard line that helped him in the primaries with his mistrustful base? Or does he tack toward moderation, supporting Rubio's "Keep Dreaming" initiative ( which Rubio admits is now on hold, thanks to Obama), as he seemed to be about to do, till Friday.
Wow, I've never SEEN a pol knocked for a loop like this before. Romney looks like he got hit in the head by a fastball. His team of dolts had ALL WEEKEND to come up with something, ANYTHING!!!
Gee, if Obama can knock the Romney team for a loop like this, what's the Ayatollah of Iran gonna do?
Yawn let me know how this policy works out with the white working class in those same states and beyond. This narrative that Latinos are the only people who are going to matter in this election is a false one that will blow up in the Dems faces in November.
Yawn let me know how this policy works out with the white working class in those same states and beyond. This narrative that Latinos are the only people who are going to matter in this election is a false one that will blow up in the Dems faces in November.
You talk about the White working class. What about Black laborers? How bad are they going to be screwed by this? What about native born and legal Latino immigrants?
Now it’s true that Obama’s easy 2008 win was built in part on youth and minority turnout, and that the president cruised to victory even though he didn’t perform particularly well among working class whites. But Hispanics were still only about 10 percent of the electorate four years ago, whereas whites without college degrees were almost 40 percent. This meant that even though Obama won about 67 percent of Hispanics and only 40 percent of white working class voters, he still won millions more working class white votes in total — and needs to win at least some of those millions again. Given that anxieties about immigration’s impact on native employment tend to be concentrated among working class voters (and particularly among young working class voters, who happen to be in direct competition for jobs with the beneficiaries of this policy change), it seems at least possible that the White House’s gambit will hurt in states like Ohio and Wisconsin as much as it helps the campaign in states like Nevada and Florida.
One reason that this possibility has found its way into so little of the press coverage, I suspect, is that the media has persistent difficulty recognizing that there are swing voters who lean rightward on the social issues (broadly defined to include immigration as well as abortion, gay marriage, etc.) as well as swing voters who fit the Acela Corridor’s “socially liberal, economically moderate” paradigm of what a good centrist should be. Thus the “secure the borders first” position on immigration is defined as incorrigibly right-wing and potential general election poison by reporters, even though a plurality of independents prioritize border security over a path to citizenship and a substantial minority of Democrats do as well. (Likewise on abortion, of course, where the press has difficulty even acknowledging that pro-life women exist.) Whether the White House really knows what they’re doing politically, then — both with this policy shift and with the social issues strategy, generally — depends on how thoroughly they’ve dug into the underlying numbers and gamed out their state-by-state implications, versus how much they’ve allowed themselves to be swaddled in a comfortable media cocoon.
You talk about the White working class. What about Black laborers? How bad are they going to be screwed by this? What about native born and legal Latino immigrants?
They'll be screwed but at best they'll stay home they won't vote for Romney.
Why is it okay for Obama to pick and choose what laws to enforce?
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