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Old 08-13-2012, 10:33 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Now let's see see what the correct, Romney/Ryan campaign approved spin is.

http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-acti...2012-04-16.pdf
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Texas
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...."

Laws should not be based on anyone's religious beliefs.
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...."

Laws should not be based on anyone's religious beliefs.
Does that go for contraception etc, etc as well? What a hypocritical position!
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:39 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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And since when does the Catholic church have any authority in the Constitution?

I am not a Romney supporter but come on now!

They should be more worried about their priests who molest children.
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And since when does the Catholic church have any authority in the Constitution?

I am not a Romney supporter but come on now!

They should be more worried about their priests who molest children.
hey..tit for tat. Obama told them to offer contraceptives.

If one side steps over that line then don't whine when the other side steps over the line.
Obama opened a can of worms when he stepped over that line. He should have NEVER did that in his quest for social utopia.
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:42 AM
 
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Obama Orders Catholics to Act Against Their Faith; Bishops Call it 'Unconscionable'

In a statement, the nation's Roman Catholic bishops immediately condemned the administration's decision to move forward with the regulation as "literally unconscionable."


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Cardinal-designate Timothy M. Dolan, the archbishop of New York and the president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, was caustic in responding to administration’s extension and made clear that the church objects to the regulation as it applies to both groups and individual citizens.


“In effect, the president is saying we have a year to figure out how to violate our consciences,” Dolan said in a statement.
“To force American citizens to choose between violating their consciences and forgoing their healthcare is literally unconscionable,” said Dolan. “It is as much an attack on access to health care as on religious freedom. Historically, this represents a challenge and a compromise of our religious liberty."


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When HHS Secretary Sebelius first announced the regulation in August, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops submitted formal comments to HHS calling the regulation an “unprecedented attack on religious liberty” and urging the administration to rescind it.
"Indeed, such nationwide government coercion of religious people and groups to sell, broker, or purchase 'services' to which they have a moral or religious objection represents an unprecedented attack on religious liberty," the bishops told HHS.


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Cardinal-designate Dolan personally met with Obama in November to explain the church’s objection to the regulation, but Obama has now rejected Dolan’s pleas and those of Dolan’s brother bishops.
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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The bigger question is whether conservative Catholics will listen to their bishops or their wallets. They love to bash liberal and moderate "cafeteria Catholics," but if they choose to ignore the bishops' warning on this issue, isn't that exactly what they're choosing to be?
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The bigger question is whether conservative Catholics will listen to their bishops or their wallets. They love to bash liberal and moderate "cafeteria Catholics," but if they choose to ignore the bishops' warning on this issue, isn't that exactly what they're choosing to be?
Catholics aren't like Muslims who take their leader's words as law.
And you should know better than to even think they do.
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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Let's see......Catholics must decide if small cuts in certain government give-aways in order to make them sustainable are more important to them than being forced to violate their religious beliefs???

That's a really tough one, eh Libs?
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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The Catholic Church is doing what it is doing. They're more concerned about the well beig of the poor than fiscal matters. If we're broke there will be no food stamps anyway so we have to pick our poison.
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