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Old 08-20-2012, 10:25 AM
 
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So what Obama is saying is that the American EXPERIENCE of the last 4 years should be ignored and we should still HOPE he'll be somehow different if elected for another 4 years?

He's admitting his record sucks, but wants us to ignore it.

The guy has made every decision based on partisan politics and breeding class hatred. He's been in campaign mode since he took office.

David Shribman has a great op-ed out this morning that really gets to the heart of what I’m feeling here:


President Obama is the quintessential permanent campaigner, and he’s trying to convince voters to give him a second chance based on a beguiling-but-empty platform of more hopenchange symbolism — ’cause he sure as heck has yet to win his spurs as a movin’-and-shakin’ leader.
His first term was disappointing; even he implicitly acknowledges that. He is looking to renew his vows with the American people — the 18th-century English pundit Samuel Johnson would call that the triumph of hope over experience, his classic definition of the second marriage — and he’s returned to his most comfortable role: candidate.


A third of a century ago American pollsters and consultants began speaking of a “permanent campaign” — the notion originated with Carter pollster Patrick Caddell — that transformed the act of governing in the White House into an extension of campaigning for the White House. …
Mr. Obama was a silver-tongued orator in the campaign but he lacked a silver bullet in the presidency. He was a darling on the stump, a dud in office. This is not a remarkable view. It is held in the White House itself. …


Outside the Washington Beltway, and perhaps inside it as well, the president seems to be two men, one a brilliant practitioner of the political arts, the other a conscientious objector to politics. But politics comes in two dimensions. A skilled president must know how to get the office and then know how to use it. Failed presidents triumph in the former and stumble in the latter.
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:30 AM
 
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Name ONE President who wasn't campaigning for re-election the day he walked in the White House door.

Just one....and prove it.
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:54 AM
 
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Name ONE President who wasn't campaigning for re-election the day he walked in the White House door.

Just one....and prove it.
Easy.....George W. Bush.

Bush made quite a few recommendations that he wanted to see passed which weren't for political gain....

1) Social Security reform
2) Reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (12 times)
3) No Child Left Behind ( a bi-partisan plan coordinated with Ted Kennedy )
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:58 AM
 
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Name ONE President who wasn't campaigning for re-election the day he walked in the White House door.

Just one....and prove it.

BTW.....you only got PART of the POINT.....

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A skilled president must know how to get the office and then know how to use it. Failed presidents triumph in the former and stumble in the latter.
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His first term was disappointing; even he implicitly acknowledges that.
And therefore NOW that he acknowledges his failed record, he's asking us to have totally BLIND hope that he'd do better with another term.

Again....voting to re-elect Obama is like the Titanic backing-up and running into the iceberg again.
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Easy.....George W. Bush.

Bush made quite a few recommendations that he wanted to see passed which weren't for political gain....

1) Social Security reform
2) Reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (12 times)
3) No Child Left Behind ( a bi-partisan plan coordinated with Ted Kennedy )

Yet, he ran for a second term...didn't he? What? Would you have me believe he just decided at the last minute to do that?

You're just stating an opinion, and you know what they are like.
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:16 AM
 
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Yet, he ran for a second term...didn't he? What? Would you have me believe he just decided at the last minute to do that?

You're just stating an opinion, and you know what they are like.

You asked:

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Name ONE President who wasn't campaigning for re-election the day he walked in the White House door.

Just one....and prove it.
I did that.

Bush began asking Congress in 2002 to reign in Fanny & Freddie.....12 times! That wasn't based on politics at all. Neither was asking for SS reform.

So to answer your question, there is a President that wasn't campaigning since the day he took office.
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Old 08-20-2012, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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He needs to hire better "spin doctors" because not all Americans are this stupid.
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Old 08-20-2012, 05:58 PM
 
Location: None of your business
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Just think, with all the people who voted for him the first time, if he would have done well in his first 4 years and had an economy to put on his plus side he could have easily won a second term. Since his policies failed, not so much. All the slamming the opponent in the world will overshadow his failed policies.
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