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Old 09-20-2012, 12:49 PM
Location: Texas
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Obama campaign now selling its version of American flag, complete with ‘O’ logo | Twitchy
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Old 09-20-2012, 01:58 PM
Location: New Jersey
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You are very late to the party.

There are already three or so threads about this, all sounding the same.
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:06 PM
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by Nomander View Post
Anyone can be racist for any reason. It can be true racism, it can be guilt apologetic racism, etc... The thing is, you bring up race when it is irrelevant and that is a racist approach.
Yeah, except those who say blatantly racist things, and those who have irrational hatred for someone based on lies and deceit (because all of the nonsense you say about Obama is truly and utter BS) are either doing so out of racism or ignorance. The fact that the TEA Party didn't care about the bailout under Bush but did under Obama was a clear sign of the racism within that pathetic excuse for a political movement.

Just remember, I'm saying this stuff as someone who voted against Obama in 2008 (Bob Barr) and who is voting against him again this year (Gary Johnson).

The communistic arguments are based in fact. Obama has been clear about his positions on this. He believes in Marxism and has argued points concerning it. He believes in many aspects of the "ism's" and uses them as tools to achieve what he thinks will be good for society. He thinks the Constitution is flawed because it limits the power of government to make change. This is a Marxist argument. He believes in redistribution of wealth and sees no problem with taking from one individual in order to give to another. These are not secrets and they come from his own mouth.


You people are so far beyond help, you need to just go back to your cabins in the woods and clean your guns while waiting for the Zombie apocalypse. Seriously, your completely nonexistant comprehension of Marxism is sad, you really need to learn what Marxism actually is.

Now you can be ignorant about it, but the fact is, he supports a more socialized means of society. You deflecting objections to that by using race, makes you a racist.
If you people based your arguments in facts, I'd accept it as an actual argument. I am not an Obama supporter, so it's not like I am overwhelmingly supportive of the guy, but until you people point out actual facts or policies which show his desire to make this a Socialist country (and COMMUNISM IS NOT SOCIALISM, THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHIES) instead of using hearsay and misinterpretations of statements made many years ago I will continue to point out how pathetic you people are.

No matter how many times you people call everyone else racist it wont make it true. There's a reason why the GOP has essentially no support from anyone who isn't white.

Oh, and as for "right wing", I despise them both. They are one and the same, all looking to limit liberty for the sake of instituting their own brand of an ideal society. None of them respect freedom and liberty, nor do the majority of people.
I can agree with you on that...however, my arguments as to why Obama is not good for the country are based in fact.

However, your constant anti-"Liberal" rants place you squarely in the Right-Wing group...Libertarians don't use the word "liberal" as an insult because the word "Liberal" is based from the word "liberty" and we believe in Liberty. You are a right-winger, and your post history proves it.

I take actual policy choices (like his idiotic decision to continue fighting medical marijuana dispensaries even though they pay taxes and function within state law) to make my decisions. I don't cling to these pathetic ideas that he wants to take over America and turn it into Communist Russia because a marketing design.

Hence the reason why only 13% of Obama voters are voting AGAINST Romney while 47% of Romney voters are voting AGAINST Obama. This is a sign that the people who support Romney do so because of an irrational hatred for Obama. The Birther movement is another clear sign of the racism. To deny that people don't like Obama because of his race/name is to be completely ignorant or simply blind to the facts.
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Nomander View Post
I am confused. Are you saying this is incorrect? That they are defacing the American flag with their political logo's?


Now you can argue that it doesn't mean anything, that people do this all the time, but... do you really think this is a respectful manner for a presidents campaign?

As for fox news, what does that have to do with the content?

What exactly, is Obama doing that upsets you so that Romeny is doing that DOESN'T upset you so? Because both are doing exactly the same thing. Neither is "redesigning the flag". Are you ten years old, or what?
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:35 AM
Location: Texas
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It looks like things are more complicated than we think:

From the Wikipedia:

Marxism and Philosophy

The philosopher Étienne Balibar wrote in 1993 that "there is no Marxist philosophy and there never will be; on the other hand, Marx is more important for philosophy than ever before."[1] So even the existence of Marxist philosophy is debatable (the answer may depend on what is meant by "philosophy," a complicated question in itself). Balibar's remark is intended to explain the significance of the final line of Karl Marx's 11 Theses on Feuerbach (1845), which can be read as an epitaph for philosophy: "The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it".
If this claim (which Marx originally intended as a criticism of German Idealism and the more moderate Young Hegelians) is still more or less the case in the 21st century, as many Marxists[who?] would claim, then Marxist theory is in fact the practical continuation of the philosophical tradition, while much of philosophy is still politically irrelevant. Many critics[who?], both philosophers outside Marxism and some Marxist philosophers, feel that this is too quick a dismissal of the post-Marxian philosophical tradition...
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by seahawkgirl View Post
But, when I saw the video of Michelle saying during a flag day celebration, "All this for a damn flag", it made me really mad.
Well then, do I have some news for you!

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Old 10-26-2012, 04:07 AM
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The stylized graphic the self-Righteous are feigning indignation about here of couse looks nothing like a real flag. Their lack of comment on the bastardized flag pin Willard has worn while campaiging/debating is just another display of what a bunch of whiming hypocrites they truly are.
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