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Old 10-15-2012, 07:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Katiana View Post

I'd say some people don't know what communism is!
You're right. Some people don't and I'm not one of them.

Differences between Capitalism and Communism

Capitalism and communism have the following opposing sets of ideas:

The ideology of communism - Sounds like Barack Obama

People need one another - "Everyone needs to do their part."
When people work together as equals, they achieve greater things - "You didn't build that!"
No one should have more than anyone else - everybody's needs are equally important - "Everyone deserves a fair shot." "Spread the wealth around."
Governments should make sure that everyone's needs are being met - Foodstamps rise dramatically - Disability being approved easily - Pandering to each group according to their needs
There is central control of the economy - GM, Stimulus, "Picking Winners and Losers," More happening every day

The ideology of capitalism - Sounds like Governor Romney

People need freedom
When people compete against one another, they achieve greater things
Some people have more than others because they make better use of their abilities
Governments should not interfere with the rights of individuals to make their own living
The government should interfere in the economy as little as possible

Communism - Some of this sounds like Barack Obama - Some of it doesn't...yet!

Wealth distributed equally - "Spread the wealth around"
Education and health care provided by the state - "Obamacare"
Press controlled and owned by the state - No need to explain that one.
Classless society: all members of society are considered to be equal - "A 'strong' middle class"
Focus is on the progress of the community as a whole - "You didn't build that!"
System of government is totalitarian - Too many executive orders bypassing Congress, the ones we elected to represent us
Property is owned by the state - .....Not yet
No free enterprise is allowed - .....Not Yet

Capitalism - Sounds like Governor Romney

System of government is democratic
Property is privately owned
Driven by free enterprise
Wealth distributed unevenly
Education and health care provided by private entities
Freedom of the press
Class distinctions: upper class, middle class and working class
Focus is on the individual and his/her own progress in life

Good information if you care if he is a communist wannabe or not: http://obamaism.blogspot.com/
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Originally Posted by Gal from the South View Post
You're right. Some people don't and I'm not one of them.

Differences between Capitalism and Communism

Capitalism and communism have the following opposing sets of ideas:

The ideology of communism - Sounds like Barack Obama

People need one another - "Everyone needs to do their part."
When people work together as equals, they achieve greater things - "You didn't build that!"
No one should have more than anyone else - everybody's needs are equally important - "Everyone deserves a fair shot." "Spread the wealth around."
Governments should make sure that everyone's needs are being met - Foodstamps rise dramatically - Disability being approved easily - Pandering to each group according to their needs
There is central control of the economy - GM, Stimulus, "Picking Winners and Losers," More happening every day

The ideology of capitalism - Sounds like Governor Romney

People need freedom
When people compete against one another, they achieve greater things
Some people have more than others because they make better use of their abilities
Governments should not interfere with the rights of individuals to make their own living
The government should interfere in the economy as little as possible

Communism - Some of this sounds like Barack Obama - Some of it doesn't...yet!

Wealth distributed equally - "Spread the wealth around"
Education and health care provided by the state - "Obamacare"
Press controlled and owned by the state - No need to explain that one.
Classless society: all members of society are considered to be equal - "A 'strong' middle class"
Focus is on the progress of the community as a whole - "You didn't build that!"
System of government is totalitarian - Too many executive orders bypassing Congress, the ones we elected to represent us
Property is owned by the state - .....Not yet
No free enterprise is allowed - .....Not Yet

Capitalism - Sounds like Governor Romney

System of government is democratic
Property is privately owned
Driven by free enterprise
Wealth distributed unevenly
Education and health care provided by private entities Freedom of the press
Class distinctions: upper class, middle class and working class
Focus is on the individual and his/her own progress in life

Good information if you care if he is a communist wannabe or not: http://obamaism.blogspot.com/
Actually, the bold is libertarianism, not capitalism. I don't think you know what capitalism is. Here's a start:
Capitalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nor do you know what communism is. Again:
Communism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:45 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Katiana View Post
Actually, the bold is libertarianism, not capitalism. I don't think you know what capitalism is. Here's a start:
Capitalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nor do you know what communism is. Again:
Communism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wikipedia? lol....
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:52 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Gal from the South View Post
Wikipedia? lol....
as opposed to your sources, you have to be kidding, a freakin blog, and one with a childish stupid name, you should write for the Onion

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Originally Posted by Gal from the South View Post
Good information if you care if he is a communist wannabe or not: http://obamaism.blogspot.com/
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:01 PM
 
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as opposed to your sources, you have to be kidding, a freakin blog, and one with a childish stupid name, you should write for the Onion
What's childish is that the two of you are like children with your hands over your ears and your eyes closed, yelling, "blah blah blah!" so that you don't have to hear the hard truth. If you are so sure he does not like communism, there's nothing for you to fear in reading everything you can find about his background, comparing his statements to communist ideology, etc. A good place to start is that link I posted. But you won't do that, will you?
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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What's childish is that the two of you are like children with your hands over your ears and your eyes closed, yelling, "blah blah blah!" so that you don't have to hear the hard truth. If you are so sure he does not like communism, there's nothing for you to fear in reading everything you can find about his background, comparing his statements to communist ideology, etc. A good place to start is that link I posted. But you won't do that, will you?
I think the Wikipedia articles give a good overview, like any encyclopedia article. I read once that there are no more mistakes in Wiki than in any other encyclopedia.

A blog is certainly less reliable.

I know for sure capitalism does NOT exclude public education, and in most capitalist countries, public health care.

I have read way more about Obama's background than I think you have. I went to high school during the Cold War and probably know more about communism than you do. Obama is not a communist.
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:16 PM
 
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What's childish is that the two of you are like children with your hands over your ears and your eyes closed, yelling, "blah blah blah!" so that you don't have to hear the hard truth. If you are so sure he does not like communism, there's nothing for you to fear in reading everything you can find about his background, comparing his statements to communist ideology, etc. A good place to start is that link I posted. But you won't do that, will you?
Obama gave hundreds of billions of dollars to Wall Street.

You have no idea what communism is.
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Old 10-16-2012, 03:46 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Wow, Non-thinker before you spout off, George W. Bush didn't dodge any draft (unlike William Jefferson Clinton) He served in the Texas Air National Guard from May 1968 to November 1974. He served two years Active Duty with the 147th Reconnaissance Wing, out of Ellington Field. He was assigned to Houston, flying Convair F-102's. He also drilled (trained for you liberals) with the 187th Fighter Wing of the Alabama Air National Guard. He was Honorably Discharged in November 1974.

So tell us what was your military career like ThinkBeforeYouVote, or didn't you have one, wouldn't surprize me if you didn't, as it looks like you don't know the first thing about it. I'll be happy to compare yours against mine or Bushes.

As for 9-11 being Bushes fault, thats pure BS, Bush had only been president for 243 days before 9-11 happened, and to hear you liberals tell it he (Bush) would have been too "stupid" to plan something so immense. You pretty much sound like your Messiah, Barack Hussein Obama though, blame Bush. Another one of your heros, William Jefferson Clinton, had been presented with three distinct opportunities to get Osama Bin Laden, but he refused each one, why not blame Clinton ? (it's a rhetorical question, don't bother to try to formulate an answer)

People like you who so blindly follow this clown really need to take a good look at what you've inherited. When he thinks he's off mic he tells Dmitry Medvedev of Russia, "Let me get re-elected, then I'll have a better chance of making something happen. On all the issues here, but particularly on Missile Defense, this can be solved, but it's important for him (incoming Russian President, Vladimir Putin) to give me some space. This is my last election, after my re-election, I'll have more flexibility." And you sheep see nothing wrong with this, he's selling our security down the river to appease his Communist / Socialist friends, but that's apparently okay with all of you.

Barack Hussein Obama, likes to tell anyone who'll listen about "the mess" he inherited and it's even worse than we thought and so on and so on. However just think of "the mess" he'll inherit if he's re-elected. But alas, he'll just continue to blame bush.
Bush 43, part-timer.
George W. Bush military service controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Quote:
The White House used an inappropriate–and less stringent–Air Force standard in determining that President Bush fulfilled his National Guard duty.
Even using this lesser standard, the president did not attend enough drills to complete his obligation to the Guard during his final year of service.
During the final two years of his service obligation, Bush did not comply with Air Force regulations that impose a time limit on making up missed drills. Instead, he took credit for makeup drills he participated in outside that time frame. Five months of drills missed by the President in 1972 were never made up, contrary to assertions made by the White House
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Old 10-16-2012, 03:55 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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You should be ashamed of yourself for referring to an Ambassadors death like that! You and obama may think that his death and the Navy Seal's were just "bumps in the road", but their lives were valuable and you should not call them a "tradeoff". Their lives were not traded for osama's and maybe you are the one who should be feeling more outrage.

Why do you criticize someone because they are not raging about a past president? obama is president now. If you are so concerned about the 10,000 Americans that have died, then why are you not bashing obama because most of those that have died have done so on his watch.
RWNJ dogwhistle and talking point, a conversation taken out of context. Why you people keep bringing up what is taken out of context I will never understand, why don't you pay attention to the ENTIRE CONVERSATION AND MESSAGE? or, would that be too lengthy for people with short attention spans to grasp?
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:09 AM
 
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Why would Kenya agree to take him?
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