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Old 10-17-2012, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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I'll say it again: The emphasis on semantics being played out in the media and on this forum is precisely what the Administration wants. As long as people fight about words, there will be no attention placed on the ACTUAL FAILURE of the USG to protect its ambassadors in hostile territory.

I wish I could say that i'm surprised that liberals are so easily duped into parroting Administration talking points. Unfortunatley, i'm not surprised at all.

Words mean nothing. It's the action that counts, and this was a failure of colossal proportions.
So basically you're pissed off because Romney lost another easy debate that was his to win and he blew it?

Fair enough.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:11 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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What polls?
Election 2012 Likely Voters Trial Heat: Obama vs. Romney
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Cool. Checked them out. Not bad...still doesn't change the fact that Romney lost the debate last night.

Just letting you know.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Edina, MN, USA
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I would hope that most people are more savvy than to base something as important as who to vote for on who was the best at this or any debate. Having worked in corporate America for a very long time I saw many "big mouths" put in positions due to their verbal abilities and fall flat on their faces because they were all talk - that's where their ability ended.

Many political candidates will say whatever they need to the get elected. It's all lip service - think about how the story they're telling now conflicts with what they have either said or implied in the recent past. One of these candidates (Romney) suddenly claims to be so concerned about the middle class - you know, the people that make $250,000 per year. His concept of middle class is even off. I believe the eyes speak louder than the mouth - a smile on the mouth and "I'm going to kill you" eyes - someone that is used to getting his way. Someone that is all ego doesn't make a good President.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:24 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Cool. Checked them out. Not bad...still doesn't change the fact that Romney lost the debate last night.

Just letting you know.
I'll let you know this...
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on some key issues, Romney came out on top, including an 18-point lead on the economy.

Mitt Romney was seen as better able to handle the economy, taxes, and the budget deficit
CNN Poll: Split decision on debate – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

Romney has an 18-point lead on the issue MOST important to voters.

So... Romney wins on the issue most important to voters:
Priorities
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I'll let you know this... CNN Poll: Split decision on debate – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

Romney has an 18-point lead on the issue MOST important to voters.

So... Romney wins on the issue most important to voters:
Priorities
Feel free to try and spin it however you want, Romney still lost that debate.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:28 PM
 
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I though eastwooding was a funny meme, but binder full of women just might have it beat. LOL
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:29 PM
 
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Feel free to try and spin it however you want, Romney still lost that debate.
What part of "It's the economy, stupid" do you not understand?

Romney won by 18 points on the issue most important to voters on every poll - the economy.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:37 PM
 
Location: the AZ desert
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On Benghazi...

Frankly, I think the whole semantic argument is ridiculous, and it doesn't score any political points with me. It doesn't matter a bit what the WH thought the attack were "about" or "caused by" initially. If they judged it wrong in the heat of the moment, then so be it, things like that happen. Dissecting whether he said "terror" or "terrorism" and what he was referring to is useless bickering imo.
The point is Obama and his administration were trying to cover up that a terrorist attack took place against us again on 9/11, in a pre-planned attack by al-Qaeda, on his watch. 9/11/12 was too close to the upcoming election, so they tried to spin it as a random act of terror, based upon a stupid video, to deflect from this tragedy and from Obama's grossly incompetent, failed foreign policies.

Sept. 16: Susan Rice is sent out to do multiple Sunday talk show interviews, where she repeatedly blamed the violence on spontaneous protests over an anti-Muslim film. [Source]

Sept. 18: Obama went on Letterman, still claiming the attack was because of a video.

"• Sept. 21: Clinton says “what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack,” highest official until then to say so." [Source]

Less than two weeks after the office of his Director of National Intelligence publicly conceded that people linked to al Qaeda had been involved in the deadly 9/11/12 terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, President Barack Obama declared to a crowd in San Francisco that he had put al Qaeda "on its heels." [Source]

"• Sept. 25: In his address to the U.N. General Assembly, Obama doesn’t mention terrorism but makes repeated references to the video. Asked about Clinton’s statement on ABC’s“The View” show, the president skirts the issue by saying: “We’re still doing an investigation,” blames “extremist militias.”'
[Source]

[Bolded emphasis mine.]
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