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Old 10-19-2012, 01:36 PM
 
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And perhaps all of the old legacy Democrats in Pennsylvania are finally evolving their personal ideologies (conservative) to match that of today's political parties. Old school PA Democrats are generally more aligned with Republicans, but because Grandpa voted Democrat all his life, his offspring tend to follow suit. That could be changing as these old folks die out.

That is especially true of the old-school Democrats in and around Pittsburgh. They used to vote Democrat because that's what the coal miners and steelworkers unions told them to do.

Obama's war on coal has shifted them to the Romney side.

 
Old 10-19-2012, 01:37 PM
 
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jt, you beat me to it. You are correct, many parts of PA, especially pittsburgh are no longer union like they were in the old days. Even then, PA voted republican before and may break to vote republican again today. The war on coal didn't do much to help the democratic party either. There are many "Stop the war on coal, FIRE OBAMA" signs in PA. Pittsburgh is big in health care too. People from all over the world go to PA to get health care. Obamacare is not sitting too well for Doctors. Either way, it will be tight.
 
Old 10-19-2012, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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The Susquehanna Poll was released just yesterday:

Poll shows Romney leading in blue Pennsylvania
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A Susquehanna poll of Pennsylvania (commissioned by the Republican State Committee of Pennsylvania) showed Mitt Romney four points ahead there — the first poll of any kind showing Mr. Romney with a lead in Pennsylvania since another Susquehanna poll in February.
Yeah.

Oct. 18: Obama Gains in Forecast on Resiliency in Swing State Polls - NYTimes.com

Obama's chances of winning Pennsylvania on November 6...

90.4%
 
Old 10-19-2012, 01:40 PM
 
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Yeah.

Oct. 18: Obama Gains in Forecast on Resiliency in Swing State Polls - NYTimes.com

Obama's chances of winning Pennsylvania on November 6...

90.4%

Too bad for you all those polls listed at your link are OLD.
 
Old 10-19-2012, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Too bad for you all those polls listed at your link are OLD.
There are three polls post-dating the Susquehanna poll. And after averaging those polls (including the Susquehanna poll), Obama has a 5 point advantage.
 
Old 10-19-2012, 01:46 PM
 
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The Susquehanna poll was released YESTERDAY. It shows Romney leading

The RPC Electoral College map also shows Romney winning.....WITHOUT Pennsylvania in the win column for Romney.
 
Old 10-19-2012, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Too bad for you all those polls listed at your link are OLD.
Those polls were taken yesterday....and ONE poll shows Romney leading in PA. I'll take it more seriously when the other polls have the same results. Thats just like that ONE poll that show Obama ahead in Arizona.
 
Old 10-19-2012, 02:04 PM
 
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Those polls were taken yesterday.

No...the ARTICLE was written yesterday and the POLLS it cites are older.

It shows the Rasmussen poll 1% point LOWER than it was yesterday, so as anyone can see, the polls are old.
 
Old 10-19-2012, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Housing Starts Surge 15% - WSJ.com

Residential construction picked up momentum in September and now is running at its highest level in four years, a turn that could have a positive effect on the jobs market and the broader U.S. economy.

Builders started work on new houses and apartments at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 872,000 units last month, the Commerce Department said Wednesday, up 15% from August and 34.8% from September a year ago, far exceeding economists' expectations. The level of starts was the highest since July 2008.

Many economists contend that the rise in construction, if sustained, could boost job creation and economic growth. The National Association of Home Builders, a trade group, estimates that each home built generates three full-time jobs and $90,000 in new tax revenue.
That is not going to help Obama much, if at all. It's too little, too late.
 
Old 10-19-2012, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Those last 3 polls are ancient, and PPP oversamples.
Good to see "the polls are wrong" mentality is still alive and well with the Cons. I can't wait to hear them whining that the polls are wrong when Obama gets the 270 electoral votes that are needed.
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