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Old 10-20-2012, 08:15 AM
 
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The Party totals have come in including yesterday.

Democrats 191,417
Republican 125,350
Other/unaffiliatied 71,000.

Also the black turnout has risen 111,781.

2012 General Election | NC Vote Tracker
Compare that to 4 years ago

Democrats 2008 159,997
Democrats 2012 191,417

Republicans 2008 87,031
Republicans 2012 125,350

Independents 2008 48,358
Independents 2012 70,306

Democrats up 19%
Republicans up 44%
Independents up 45%

Anyone who thinks the polls using 2008 rations are accurate or anyone who thinks the Democrats are just as motivated as Republicans is just kidding themself.. This would go for the OP...
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The Party totals have come in including yesterday.

Democrats 191,417
Republican 125,350
Other/unaffiliatied 71,000.

Also the black turnout has risen to 111,781.

2012 General Election | NC Vote Tracker
The numbers are higher across the board, but the various ratios are basically the same as in 2008. That is relatively good news for Obama because he won with those numbers, but it was so close that it is hard to make anything definitive of it. The tabs to date certainly do not support the robo polls of NC lately that have Romney up several percentage points. It looks closer than those polls suggest.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:18 AM
 
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The numbers are higher across the board, but the various ratios are basically the same as in 2008. That is relatively good news for Obama because he won with those numbers, but it was so close that it is hard to make anything definitive of it. Good turnout favors Obama generally though, so keep it up NC.
Not even close to the same ratios as 2008

Democrats up 19%
Republicans up 44%
Independents up 45%

But keep up the hope and holding onto stuff thats not even close to true. This is why I've been telling you guys the polls were crap. They had Democrats up even higher than Republicans.. FAIL!!!
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:20 AM
 
Location: NC
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The numbers are higher across the board, but the various ratios are basically the same as in 2008. That is relatively good news for Obama because he won with those numbers, but it was so close that it is hard to make anything definitive of it. Good turnout favors Obama generally though, so keep it up NC.
Except in one key variable.

Black voters

This point 2008 79,835
This point in 2012 111,781

Overall they have gone from being 27% to about 28.8% of all voters.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:25 AM
 
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Not even close to the same ratios as 2008

Democrats up 19%
Republicans up 44%
Independents up 45%

But keep up the hope and holding onto stuff thats not even close to true. This is why I've been telling you guys the polls were crap. They had Democrats up even higher than Republicans.. FAIL!!!
You really are mathematically challenged. You have to compare the percentage of the total vote not the raw numbers changes. (a change 100K in 1 million is 10%, but a change 100K in 200K is 50%) If you look at the relative percentages of Dems, Reps, women, blacks, etc, to the total votes cast you will see that they are all very close to what they were in 08. Think about it for a while before you come back.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:28 AM
 
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Except in one key variable.

Black voters

This point 2008 79,835
This point in 2012 111,781

Overall they have gone from being 27% to about 28.8% of all voters.
Yes, I see that. I dismissed it as not significant, but then again, this is a very tight race and a few thousands votes could decide it. If it were to persist throughout the election cycle, it could be the difference for sure.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:32 AM
 
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Yes, I see that. I dismissed it as not significant, but then again, this is a very tight race and a few thousands votes could decide it. If it were to persist throughout the election cycle, it could be the difference for sure.
Either way I think it puts to rest the Republican message that black voters will not turn out.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:33 AM
 
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You really are mathematically challenged. You have to compare the percentage of the total vote not the raw numbers changes. (a change 100K in 1 million is 10%, but a change 100K in 200K is 50%) If you look at the relative percentages of Dems, Reps, women, blacks, etc, to the total votes cast you will see that they are all very close to what they were in 08. Think about it for a while before you come back.
Haha, Democrats not only cant face reality, but cant do math..

Here, lets do it your way, just for the sake of embarassing your argument

2008 - Democrats 54% of the vote
2012 - Democratic 49% of the vote

no matter how you compute it, DEMOCRATS ARE DOWN.. and not by small numbers either.

But you guys stand there and tell us that the polls were correct when they predicted higher turnouts than 2008 for the Democrats, and you stand here high 5ng early turnouts as "good news for Obama", even though there isnt ONE BIT of good news in it..

Keep that hope alive!!!
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:34 AM
 
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Either way I think it puts to rest the Republican message that black voters will not turn out.
I was unaware that a black vote counted more than a white one..
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:38 AM
 
Location: NC
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Haha, Democrats not only cant face reality, but cant do math..

Here, lets do it your way, just for the sake of embarassing your argument

2008 - Democrats 54% of the vote
2012 - Democratic 49% of the vote

no matter how you compute it, DEMOCRATS ARE DOWN.. and not by small numbers either.

But you guys stand there and tell us that the polls were correct when they predicted higher turnouts than 2008 for the Democrats, and you stand here high 5ng early turnouts as "good news for Obama", even though there isnt ONE BIT of good news in it..

Keep that hope alive!!!
Turnout is higher among Democrats it is also higher among Republicans. What many election experts and news casters seem to be saying is that this suggests that there will be less voting as a % on election day. Which means that if Democrats can keep their vote advantage relatively strong in early voting there will be less on election day to offset it.
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