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Old 10-27-2012, 09:01 AM
 
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I think even if Obama wins those two states (and he is certainly favored currently, based on polls), the vote total will be a lot closer than indicated. As said many times, it will be 2004-esque margins (Kerry won PA by 2.5 points).

And if Romney were to pull an upset in PA and/or OH, we will be talking about it for years to come.
Susquehanna Polling did a poll October 18 showing Romney up by 4%. RealClearPolitics is using its October 4 poll showing Obama ahead by 2%. In 2010, however, when the Republicans swept to power in the House due to disenchantment with Obama, primarily.

I don't know, we will see.

 
Old 10-27-2012, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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And you may wake up tomorrow morning to find an iceberg on your front porch.

I live in Florida. Most days, an iceberg would be welcome
 
Old 10-27-2012, 09:27 AM
 
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Heres proof of some of those jobs romney claims he will cause to happen with his policies. Plus the jobs from the pipeline.

The elephant in the room is that the price of gas is the leader on our economy. Get gas to a stable $2 and watch the whole economy flurish.
 
Old 10-27-2012, 09:32 AM
 
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Heres proof of some of those jobs romney claims he will cause to happen with his policies. Plus the jobs from the pipeline.

The elephant in the room is that the price of gas is the leader on our economy. Get gas to a stable $2 and watch the whole economy flurish.
Experts say the jobs already created in Pennsylvania are paying an average wage of $81,000 per year in core industries.

"With over 10,000 jobs created last year alone, and studies projecting the creation of more than 204,000 jobs through 2015.
 
Old 10-27-2012, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Imagine what cheap gas will do to the moribund American steel industry! A resurgent Detroit? Is this possible?
No
 
Old 10-27-2012, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Imagine what cheap gas will do to the moribund American steel industry! A resurgent Detroit? Is this possible?
And just how do you think that gas prices will come down?

Its a free market commodity, damn.
 
Old 10-27-2012, 11:01 AM
 
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Susquehanna Polling did a poll October 18 showing Romney up by 4%. RealClearPolitics is using its October 4 poll showing Obama ahead by 2%. In 2010, however, when the Republicans swept to power in the House due to disenchantment with Obama, primarily.

I don't know, we will see.


Now in 2012 we find that disenchantment has ever deepened since.
 
Old 10-27-2012, 12:15 PM
 
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One of the reports adds that the Marcellus reserves that lie below parts of Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Ohio and New York are far larger than recent government estimates. The Marcellus could contain "almost half of the current proven natural gas reserves in the U.S.

Reports: Marcellus reserves larger than expected - Businessweek

A federal government aggressively committed to removing regulatory obstacles to the exploration and production in this field could very quickly create tens of thousands of good-paying jobs in Pennsylvania and Ohio (the average pay at one of those sites is $83,000 a year.

The cumulative impact would spread to the housing market, to retail businesses, and to almost everyone in the private sector in those two states.
"In those two states??!!?" No, this would be a big deal for all 50 states, and the world. We'll all be better off by using the most economic forms of energy available--without the drag of some moron's Solyndra pipe dreams.

When alternative forms of energy become the best choice, they will be unstoppable. Until then, they only impoverish us.
 
Old 10-27-2012, 12:15 PM
 
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Pennsylvania is not going to go for Romney. People keep saying that it will, but it won't.
 
Old 10-27-2012, 12:21 PM
 
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^^And the steel industry will never come back to its former glory. That dream died decades ago.
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