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Old 10-27-2012, 12:40 PM
 
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I don't know what you Libs are holding on to. Other that intertrade and that guy from the NY times. Everything is lined up against Obama. He is polling below 50 in ohio and PA, even below 50 in NJ if you factor in the margin of error. Incumbents never win when below 50 percent. Also keep in mind that all the poles are using 08 samples. You lib's are not going to turn out like that. You keep harping on your ground game, well we did pretty well in 10 and those people are voting again. Proof of that is the senate race in PA. Casey is going to lose to a tea party candidate. You all listen to your lib media, and they tell you the tea party is dead. trust me its not. we are still pissed off, and we take this country back on Nov 6th.

There is a part of me that would like to see Obama elected, so he can be impeached. Its a win win for us. Romeny wins great, If obama wins his 2nd term is cooked. He will spend every moment defending himself of this Libya mess.

 
Old 10-27-2012, 12:52 PM
 
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Something for libs to think about.

What helps the poor and middle class more.

Money to alternative energy groups and $4 gas which causes the poor and middle class to spend almost all their money on gas to get to work.

Or

Getting energy independant and getting gas prices down into the $2's.

Lets say gas was 2.50 instead of 3.50 a gallon. A dollar difference. If you fill up a 20 gallon tank 1 time a week you just saved $20. But you will also save in lower food costs. The price of delivering food and products is added into the cost of goods sold and added to the price you pay for the item.

But just at $20 a week we have over $1000 a yr. if someone makes 40,000 a yr before taxes... After taxes they make around 29,000. That 1 a gallon saved is the same as a 3% after tax pay raise. Think about that.
 
Old 10-27-2012, 12:55 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Looks like Romney needs al the help he can get to wi Ohio and pull off the upset in Penn. We sure do need the energy & jobs created by this development. I'm for clean/renewable energy but right now, we can't afford it until some smart guys crate better technology to make it competitive cost wise.
Natural gas is very clean, and it is far cheaper than any so-called "green" energy.

There may be some disruption of the landscape while the production wells are being drilled, but once done, and production starts, they are hardly noticable. There are no unsightly storage tanks, and little else to call attention to their presence. The drilling companies restore the surrounding land, replant trees if necessary, and they are required to post bonds for maintenance of local roads while the heavy equipment is in the area.

Even the pond that must be built to hold warter for the drilling operations are destroyed when the wells are complete. Tthere was one story of a farmer that requested to keep the pond — the drilling company obliged. A pond on ones property is attractive and can add value.
 
Old 10-27-2012, 01:08 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Both Pennsylvania and Ohio will go to Obama.

You can always dream, though

As of the latest polling data, it's looking more like a Romney win in both PA and OH. Many, including Dick Morris, are saying that these polls are not correct. One reason is that they assume the 2008 turnout statistics, and are ignoring what happened in 2010. Secondly, Obama has lost his luster among voters. He ran in 2008 on "Hope and Change." Most people admit that he has disappointed them, including blacks. Obama is drawing much smaller crowds as well.

Romney is drawing enormous crowds, and they are very enthusiastic. There is a lot of excitement in Romney's rallys.

I'm beginning to believe we're going to see a Romney/Ryan landslide not seen since Ronald Reagan beat Jimmy Carter.
 
Old 10-27-2012, 01:24 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Default Why Romney will win.

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I think even if Obama wins those two states (and he is certainly favored currently, based on polls), the vote total will be a lot closer than indicated. As said many times, it will be 2004-esque margins (Kerry won PA by 2.5 points).

And if Romney were to pull an upset in PA and/or OH, we will be talking about it for years to come.

"There's a serious flaw in all of the polls which is misrepresenting the current state of the presidential race. As Dick Morris has pointed out, the pollsters all assume the demographic turnout will be the same as it was in 2008. There are many reasons why this is simply not going to happen. Many African-American preachers have already indicated that Obama hasn't done anything for black people and that his views on gay marriage do not match their own. They will not be lining up the busses to take their parishioners to the polls.
Let's see what this means. At this point, it is fairly well predicted that if Romney takes Pennsylvania, he takes the election."

Read more: Articles: Don't Be Surprised if It's Pennsylvania
 
Old 10-27-2012, 01:26 PM
 
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I think most voters who are voting for romney are keeping their vote to themselves when polled. To worried about being called racist for voting other than obama. I think the exit polls will be wrong because of this too. The vote wont match so dems will call it vote rigging and it will cause some riots in some bigger inner cities.
 
Old 10-27-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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And just how do you think that gas prices will come down?

Its a free market commodity, damn.
Natural gas prices have been declining for some time.
 
Old 10-27-2012, 01:33 PM
 
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^^And the steel industry will never come back to its former glory. That dream died decades ago.



Not going for Romney will also help to keep them out of the rewards of the Marcellus reserves as well.
 
Old 10-27-2012, 01:39 PM
 
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Not going for Romney will also help to keep them out of the rewards of the Marcellus reserves as well.
We`ve been reaping the rewards of the gas boom here in Western Pa. You know who the president is?
 
Old 10-27-2012, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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What makes anyone think PA is in play? Obama is up in every poll of the state and Romney isn't even spending money there.

Romney does have a chance in OH but he has work to do if he is going to win there.
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