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Old 10-27-2012, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Not all of it fraud, some of the GOP tricks are legal, and is done by simply changing the law, which is easy when the Governor and State Congress are Republican.

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In 2011, Republican Gov. Rick Scott and a compliant GOP-dominated state Legislature passed a law limiting early voting to a maximum of 96 hours over eight days. One effect of this was to eliminate early voting the Sunday before the election Why is that significant? African-American churches, it is well known, have made a tradition of going as a congregation to early voting sites to vote on that day. In 2008, early voting lasted a total of 120 hours over 14 days and African-Americans utilized it in huge numbers: 54 percent of Florida’s black voters, overwhelmingly Obama supporters, voted early — twice the rate of white voters — and Obama won Florida
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Florida Republicans launched their plan to make voting harder in 2011 when they effectively shut down community-based voter registration drives, responsible for registering hundreds of thousands of new voters every year. The Legislature and governor pushed through a law imposing onerous requirements and procedures on organizations seeking to conduct voter registration drives and steep fines for noncompliance. Nefarious outfits such as the League of Women Voters and Rock the Vote were forced to completely shut down their registration activities. At the same time, a teacher who brought registration forms into class for her seniors turning 18 was charged with violating the law.
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Can't handle the truth so you have to deflect? Those links are from years ago, I could post mountains of links of GOP voter fraud from years ago as well.

The discussion is about voter fraud in this election where the right wing propaganda machine is crying fraud, when the only fraud that has been going on is from the GOP.
I am IND. I believe both sides are guilty. You on the other hand seek to deflect when its the DEMs who are caught and villify when its the GOP. YOU dont command the moral high ground. Do you admit that your party is guilty of the same behavior that you villify the GOP for? I have demonstrated they have done it in the not so distant past. I also provide a link that demonstrates that both parties are guilty.
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Electronic Voting and Other Election Day Issues

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Old 10-27-2012, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Here is why people should try to get their news from legitamate news sources.

Compare the HuffPo article that Tempest cited - and the Los Angeles Times article below dealing with Colin Small in Virginia.

Man registering voters for GOP accused of tossing forms in trash - latimes.com

The LA Times gives Small's age as 31 - whereas the HuffPo says 23. Huh?

Both stories mention that in Virginia - the registration forms don't have party affiliation given - but the HuffPo goes out of the way to insinuate that Democratic voters were being denied registration.

The Times also mentions that 3 of the 8 forms had names of people already registered to vote - while the other 5 people were successfully registered.

But Tempest doesn't want anyone to know all that - in fact Tempest probally didn't know that him/herself. That is what happens when you rely on biased "news sources" like the HuffPo.

I don't have much respect for the LA Times - but at least they made some effort to be objective while covering this story.
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Maybe this guy realized that the three people had already been registered to vote - and he improperly those forms away rather then letting his company know when he turned them in. The others may have inadvertantly gone into the same bag. Mistakes happen. But if you only read biased junk like the HuffPo - then you would never know that there was more to the story.
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Here is why people should try to get their news from legitamate news sources.

Compare the HuffPo article that Tempest cited - and the Los Angeles Times article below delaing with Colin Small in Virginia.

Man registering voters for GOP accused of tossing forms in trash - latimes.com

The LA Times gives Small's age as 31 - whereas the HuffPo says 23. Huh?

Both stories mention that in Virginia - the registration forms don't have party affiliation given - but the HuffPo goes out of the way to insinuate that Democratic voters were being denied registration.

The Times also mentions that 3 of the 8 forms had names of people already registered to vote - while the other 5 people were successfully registered.

But Tempest doesn't want anyone to know all that - in fact Tempest probally didn't know that him/herself. That is what happens when you rely on biased "news sources" like the HuffPo.

I don't have much respect for the LA Times - but at least they made some effort to be objective while covering this story.
The fact is that TempesT is less concerned with facts than political agenda. A stereotypical hardliner. My party wrong or right mentality.
If my party does it that is because yours does it too. If your party does it that is because they are evil lying criminals.
Only my party is right and only my party loves this country.
Your party only cares about themselves.
Point out that both are doing pretty much the same thing and it is either silence or deflection.
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:27 PM
 
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Voting fraud is serious business.

But a story on a conservative site about the vote in Ohio that quotes an unnamed source who wishes to refrain anonymous isn't exactly in-depth investigative journalism that deserves attention.

The final line of the story is "all elements of this story are still developing..." That means they don't have jack squat but they ran with a rumor because it was about the Democrats and, for that extra touch to get their readers pointing fingers and being outraged... Somalis.

(Notice how no one ever sees bus loads of old white ladies being escorted into the voting booth? Weird, huh?)
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:44 PM
 
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Here is why people should try to get their news from legitamate news sources.

Compare the HuffPo article that Tempest cited - and the Los Angeles Times article below dealing with Colin Small in Virginia.

Man registering voters for GOP accused of tossing forms in trash - latimes.com

The LA Times gives Small's age as 31 - whereas the HuffPo says 23. Huh?

Both stories mention that in Virginia - the registration forms don't have party affiliation given - but the HuffPo goes out of the way to insinuate that Democratic voters were being denied registration.
The Times also mentions that 3 of the 8 forms had names of people already registered to vote - while the other 5 people were successfully registered.

But Tempest doesn't want anyone to know all that - in fact Tempest probally didn't know that him/herself. That is what happens when you rely on biased "news sources" like the HuffPo.

I don't have much respect for the LA Times - but at least they made some effort to be objective while covering this story.
Fail again, both the washington post, the local news affiliate, and many others have reported he was 23

Man with firm under contract to Va. GOP charged with voter registration fraud - The Washington Post

Republican Party hire arrested for dumping Virginia voter registrations | WTVR.com

We all know in right wing desperation you are trying to deflect and "blame the source" but they source every one of their links to unbiased sources.

Face it, the GOP are committing widespread fraud and trying to blame the dems for fraud that is non-existent in an attempt to shine the light away from them.
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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We all know in right wing desperation you are trying to deflect and "blame the source" but they source every one of their links to unbiased sources.
The Washington Compost is unbiased?

Where is the rolling around on the floor laughing icon?

I notice that you didn't address the glaring inaccuracies and biased language that the HuffPo used. Did you even read the LA Times article? If you had - then you would know that this case has nothing to do partisanship and certainly cannot be used as an example of "fraud".
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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In Seattle a few years ago a Somali grocer was raided by the feds, and they took away his ability to accept food stamps as payment. He said that 99 percent of his customers used food stamps, so that was like a death sentence.
Somali grocers lose right to use food stamps - seattlepi.com

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"Ninety-nine percent of my customers used food stamps. ... Today I have no business," Jama said. "I can't pay rent; I can't pay electricity."
Of course they are natural Democrat voters; no wonder Democrats are driving them to the polls. Never mind that many of them are fundamentalist Muslims who would like to destroy us.

Democrats have figured out a way to subvert yet another source of our national greatness. We used to get the most highly motivated people from around the world, and it made us great. Now we get the people who want to go on food stamps.
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Old 10-27-2012, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Native Floridian, USA
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wide spread?
How about when ACORN was caught and you dismissed it? Where was your civic outrage then?
I do not hate liberals, I have many family members who are liberals. I have some liberal leanings in some things. But, I do believe the Democrats have become completely corrupt and will resort to anything to advance their power and agenda. No, I do not see as much of it in the Republicans. By the way, I am a registered Democrat but, I do vote the issues. ACORN, the Black Panthers.....you folks just dismiss those things.
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