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Old 10-28-2012, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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There may be some impact as most people know who is politicizing the tragedy and why.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:01 AM
 
Location: South East
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Aside from an occasional wing nut and/or political opportunist , Benghazi will likely have very little impact on voters.
Aside from the few stupid, disgusting, pieces of human excrement that will try to downplay this, Benghazi is and will be a HUGE impact!

But keep trying to fool yourself. BO is going down.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Aside from the few stupid, disgusting, pieces of human excrement that will try to downplay this, Benghazi is and will be a HUGE impact!

But keep trying to fool yourself. BO is going down.
I have no interest in Obama. I didn't vote for him last time, and I won't be voting for him this time. It makes little difference to me which of the two "major" capitalist parties holds power. I'm simply tired of both parties magnifying every conceivable issue for the purpose of partisan political gain.

The events in Benghazi were tragic to the families of those who were murdered. The argument that this was a matter which the current administration bungled is a legitimate one, but no more impactive than the "dropped-balls" of any other administration in US history.

Supporters of Obama will not be swayed from their opinion by this incident. Those who are inflating the scope of the attack, and of Obama's response, are individuals who would not have supported Obama under any circumstances. My impression is that most Americans find the Benghazi incident to be little more than an unfortunate side-effect of living in an increasingly complex and dangerous world.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:41 PM
 
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There may be some impact as most people know who is politicizing the tragedy and why.
So you honestly don't have a problem with Obama lying about the Benghazi attack even after he looked the camera in the eye and said he hadn't and wouldn't mislead America?

Just curious, are you fine with Obama lying because he is in the same party as you or are you just fine with presidents in general lying about Americans dying?

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Old 10-28-2012, 12:46 PM
 
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I have no interest in Obama. I didn't vote for him last time, and I won't be voting for him this time. It makes little difference to me which of the two "major" capitalist parties holds power. I'm simply tired of both parties magnifying every conceivable issue for the purpose of partisan political gain.

The events in Benghazi were tragic to the families of those who were murdered. The argument that this was a matter which the current administration bungled is a legitimate one, but no more impactive than the "dropped-balls" of any other administration in US history.

Supporters of Obama will not be swayed from their opinion by this incident. Those who are inflating the scope of the attack, and of Obama's response, are individuals who would not have supported Obama under any circumstances. My impression is that most Americans find the Benghazi incident to be little more than an unfortunate side-effect of living in an increasingly complex and dangerous world.
There are still undecided voters and voters that are decided but waffling a bit - the polls show this and I know some.

You don't think the president lying about how Americans died and then looking right in the camera during the 2nd debate and saying that he would never mislead America on such an issue - despite rock solid evidence that he did and continued to do so could sway even a few people?

Several states are neck and neck.

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Old 10-28-2012, 12:53 PM
 
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There are many issues with the Benghazi attack:

1. When those men asked for extra security (especially before 9/11) they were denied, why? Other countries pulled out.
2. During the attack with multiple pleas for help, they were denied
3. How it was handled afterward. With continued reference to the movie.
4. How it can be prevented in the future.

What they have felt in those hours, knowing it was only a matter of time until they died not because their government didn't know, not because their comrades couldn't reach them, but because someone refused to send help.

There were already troops on the ground, already "forces at risk". There was "real time information" and if Mr. Panetta and Gen. Dempsey didn't know "what's going on," Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods did and they knew they needed help. Did the white house feel "strongly" that Ambassador Stevens and the SEALS were expendable?

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Old 10-28-2012, 01:02 PM
 
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Do they also feel others are expendable in order to save ..... what?

I would have rather they got help. Obama, we know al-Quada is not dead, just like you, we wish it were but we would have understood, forgave the naiveness of your stance but most important we would have very much appreciated the "Have Our Soldiers Back" outcome much better.
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:08 PM
 
Location: the AZ desert
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Here is another theory why help wasn't sent:

'“Within an hour’s flight time from Libya, at the large naval air station in Sigonella, Italy, and at bases in nearby Aviano and Souda Bay, were fighters and AC 130 gunships that can be extremely effective in dispersing crowds or responding to a terrorist assault.' But the order for the rescue never came. Maybe because Barack Obama did not want to offend Muslim sensibilities by such a show of force."
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:11 PM
 
Location: the AZ desert
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Do they also feel others are expendable in order to save ..... what?

I would have rather they got help. Obama, we know al-Quada is not dead, just like you, we wish it were but we would have understood, forgave the naiveness of your stance but most important we would have very much appreciated the "Have Our Soldiers Back" outcome much better.
Obama knew at 6:07 PM on 9/11 that al-Qaeda was behind the attack.
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:21 PM
 
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Unfortunately I think the fact that the Obama administration completely mishandled the situation is totally lost on the general voting public. They either dont care, dont understand the significance, or are just happy to give Obama a pass on anything that does not impact them directly.

I do however predict that IF Obama wins the election, the Republicans will double down on how hard they go after this issue. I'm sure the word "impeachment" will be a word that you tire of hearing very quickly.
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