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Old 10-29-2012, 07:55 PM
 
Location: NC
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The first one on your list

IPPA: Elon University Poll

With just over a week until Election Day, Republican challenger Romney and Democratic incumbent Obama both claim 45 percent of the vote in the Tar Heel State; about 5 percent of voters remain undecided, and within that group, leanings are evenly divided. Two percent said “neither

And since an early vote, simply means ONE LESS VOTE on election day.. the net effect on the outcome is ZERO
Not exactly, (I will get into that in a bit) but that doesn't change the fact that Mitt is not leading the early vote in North Carolina.

With that said the way voting works in NC is that you can register and vote on the same day in NC during the early voting period...Thus why it is called "One stop early voting" as such there are a fair amount of voters who could not vote on election day because they were not registered by the deadline, but can register and vote during the early voting grace period. So those are voters that you are not shifting from election day.

Secondly Democrats have a lot more casual voters then GOPers do. If you can get them out to early vote that vote is in the bank, and there is not the chance that they will blow off voting on election day. On the other hand the GOP voters are more likely to vote regardless.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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While this looks good for Romney I think early voting is playing havoc on polls. No way to know for sure how folks have voted.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:58 PM
 
Location: In each of everyone's heart
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I know Dems will hold to these unknown polls in certain battleground states and hope they can pull out an electoral win but it's looking more and more like Romney is going to win over 300 electoral votes to win comfortably. The most reliable pollsters, Gallup & Rasmussen, have Romeny up significantly so I thinkit's all but over.
I agree. I saw statistics earlier were Rasmussen has been right the final week of every election. This is a done deal. Romney now leads in Florida, Virginia, Ohio and Michigan
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:00 PM
 
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Not exactly, (I will get into that in a bit) but that doesn't change the fact that Mitt is not leading the early vote in North Carolina.

With that said the way voting works in NC is that you can register and vote on the same day in NC during the early voting period...Thus why it is called "One stop early voting" as such there are a fair amount of voters who could not vote on election day because they were not registered by the deadline, but can register and vote during the early voting grace period. So those are voters that you are not shifting to election day.

Secondly Democrats have a lot more casual voters then GOPers do. If you can get them out to early vote that vote is in the bank, and there is not the chance that they will blow off voting on election day. On the other hand the GOP voters are more likely to vote regardless.
I didnt realise we were only discussing NC, when did that become the standard?

The only thing an early vote does, is it allows them to get out of the way, so the candidates can concentrate on who's left. Those who show up early, do so either out of convience, or because they are motivated.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:05 PM
 
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I didnt realise we were only discussing NC, when did that become the standard?

The only thing an early vote does, is it allows them to get out of the way, so the candidates can concentrate on who's left. Those who show up early, do so either out of convience, or because they are motivated.
I was only discussing NC because the Elon poll you were posting about is an NC poll, we can talk about other states if you like.

Early voting also provides a good opportunity for casual voters to vote if circumstances make it difficult to vote on election day.

For example, one heavily Democratic group, college students, may be registered where their permanent non-college residence is and may be at a somewhat distant college on election day. Early voting allows them a long period of time to go home and vote, during fall break or something. Thus it makes it easier for someone who may be away from the polls to cast a vote if they don't want to do the work involved in getting an absentee ballot, and are otherwise busy on election day.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:07 PM
 
Location: 44.9800° N, 93.2636° W
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man I love this. People who were polled in the Rasmussen Ohio poll as voting early seem to be brushed aside, but cherry pick this baby and ROMNEY LANDSLIDE!

Odds are, if you have to sort through a few polls to get the results you want....your guy isnt winning.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:07 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The writing is on the wall with these numbers. Obama can't break 50% in the polls and it is a given that Romney will win the election.

In U.S., 15% of Registered Voters Have Already Cast Ballots



Romney currently leads Obama 52% to 45% among voters who say they have already cast their ballots. However, that is comparable to Romney's 51% to 46% lead among all likely voters in Gallup's Oct. 22-28 tracking polling.

Romney leads 51% to 45% among the much larger group of voters who plan to vote on Election Day, Nov. 6.



No one knows who voted for who.... An Obama voter would be too ashamed to admit it to a poll gatherer. So, no wonder he has low numbers.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The writing is on the wall with these numbers. Obama can't break 50% in the polls and it is a given that Romney will win the election.

In U.S., 15% of Registered Voters Have Already Cast Ballots



Romney currently leads Obama 52% to 45% among voters who say they have already cast their ballots. However, that is comparable to Romney's 51% to 46% lead among all likely voters in Gallup's Oct. 22-28 tracking polling.

Romney leads 51% to 45% among the much larger group of voters who plan to vote on Election Day, Nov. 6.
No vote counts have been released. This is NOT proof.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:33 PM
 
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I was only discussing NC because the Elon poll you were posting about is an NC poll, we can talk about other states if you like.

Early voting also provides a good opportunity for casual voters to vote if circumstances make it difficult to vote on election day.

For example, one heavily Democratic group, college students, may be registered where their permanent non-college residence is and may be at a somewhat distant college on election day. Early voting allows them a long period of time to go home and vote, during fall break or something. Thus it makes it easier for someone who may be away from the polls to cast a vote if they don't want to do the work involved in getting an absentee ballot, and are otherwise busy on election day.
I havent argued against early voting, just argued that if they vote early, this just reduces the number of votes on election day, and also that registered voter counts, doesnt equate to votes.

I met a Democratic committee member last week who told me he was voting for Romney. He claims that Obama, is the type of Democrat they need leading their party, or the nation.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:39 PM
 
Location: NC
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I havent argued against early voting, just argued that if they vote early, this just reduces the number of votes on election day, and also that registered voter counts, doesnt equate to votes.

I met a Democratic committee member last week who told me he was voting for Romney. He claims that Obama, is the type of Democrat they need leading their party, or the nation.
I will agree on one thing. registration numbers don't equate vote. Normally people think of unaffiliated and independents as being swingy. I have seen a lot of young people register unaffiliated this time because they reject labels. With that said they are solid Obama voters.
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