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Old 11-06-2012, 04:22 AM
 
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Catholic bishops are against the HHS Mandate plus if you provide jobs that helps the poor more than anything and they can get off food stamps.

Catholic Nuns are Obama Catholics, They are just a group of liberal women pretending to be nuns.
Yeah, damn those educated, liberal nuns.
Trying to negate them because you don't like them.
That's funny.

I received a great education from nuns.

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Oh yes, Janelle. Everyone on foodstamps, every single person, is milking the system, aren't they? I'd rather ensure that those who are truly hungry and going without are fed, even if that means that some are enabled to take advantage of the system. I happily have that money come out of my paycheck.
Some posts write themselves.
I didn't have to say anything against catholics, although invited to do so.
The poster did a great job of that on their own.


I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
- Mahatma Gandhi
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Old 11-06-2012, 04:47 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Going out in style, I see, by fear-mongering to evangelicals on a conference call.

"Obama’s policies on health care and religious freedom are a “dangerous path,” Ryan, a Catholic, told members of the Faith and Freedom Coalition. “It’s a path that grows government, restricts freedom and liberty and compromises those values, those Judeo-Christian, Western civilization values that made us such a great and exceptional nation in the first place. We should not have to sue the federal government to keep our constitutional freedoms,” he said. “Imagine what he would do if he actually got reelected. It just puts a chill down my spine.”

Ryan is an absolute turd of a man.

Paul Ryan: Obama policies threaten ‘Judeo-Christian values’
Was it necessary to point out that Ryan is Catholic? I think that in itself is an indication of the left's bigotry. But Ryan is correct in his assesment of Obama.
"Inhumanity always seems more distant from us than it really is, which is why a still-humane nation can be caught so flat-footed by its arrival, as America was by the rise of a mellifluous-toned, well-dressed son of communist revolutionaries and their fellow-travelers in the global caliphate movement."

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Old 11-06-2012, 04:53 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Wow, thanks! I feel even better about voting for this man as Vice President tomorrow. I agreed with every word he spoke. Rather than resort to classy scatological name-calling, how about explaining why you disagree with him?
I wondered why it was necessary for the O.P. to point out that Paul Ryan is Catholic, as though that is something to despise about him. Oh, wait, they do despise Catholics, Evangelicals, and anyone who, as Obama put it, "clings to their guns and religion." That phrase should scare any real American.

This article sums up Obama's agenda very well:

To have lived in a socialized medical system is to have witnessed the heart of the stealthy darkness Tocqueville foresaw. Socialized medicine is the demise of individual liberty in the guise of "equal access," a gluttonous economic shark masked as "affordability," and a final denial of the dignity of all human life, euphemized as "universal care."
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:00 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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People who embrace fear-mongering can't also be receptive to logic, so I'll pass.
Interesting. You don't think what the Democrats, and especially Obama, have been doing is "fear mongering?"

What about the phony "war on women" where they claim Republicans want to take away their birth control? (As if they could)

What about all the talk on here by people such as yourself that claims that Romney and the Republicans want to keep women "barefoot and pregnant," and objects of sexual pleasure only? I know you have posted such, haven't you? If not, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but many of your "fellow travelers" have.

Throwing granny off the cliff? Isn't that fear mongering? How often have we heard Democrats use that phrase, complete with videos of Ryan pushing a wheel chair over the cliff. But that is exactly what ObamaCare will do, if we look at it carefully. That's not fear mongering. That's fact. It's called a "cost/benefit" factor in liberal speak.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:20 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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As your post perfectly illustrate the use of an "and" would have made a distinction between the two. Ryan didn't do that: "those values, those Judeo-Christian, Western civilization values."

It's fear-mongering. Why can't you admit it? Ryan is trying to scare evangelicals into voting for Romney because of this supposed threat by Obama to basic values. Given how most evangelicals have felt about Mormons, I understand why Ryan is doing this. But to call it anything but what it obviously is is disingenuous. So tsk, tsk yourself.
I find it interesting that you leftists attempt to pit Christians against Mormons, hoping to derail Romney's election, when Obama's "religion" (what ever it may be — it certainly is anything but Christian, and he seems to embrace Islam to a large degree) is apparently not a factor for you.

By your logic, we should definitely not be supporting Obama (and you would be correct). But since that doesn't work to your advantage, you must smear a Catholic who is teamed up with a Mormon, and question why anyone of us would support that.

Short answer: We share many values in common. Love of America, for one. I don't care about the minutiae of what Mormons believe vs. Catholics or Protestants. We are voting to save America from someone that in no way, shape or form shares American values. Obama's aim is to destroy America. He is a revolutionary, whose parents were communists, and he has been steeped in communism/Marxism and socialism all his life. He does not believe in Liberty. He sees America as an oppressor nation, and his aim is to take us down and punish us.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:21 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Wow, thanks! I feel even better about voting for this man as Vice President tomorrow. I agreed with every word he spoke. Rather than resort to classy scatological name-calling, how about explaining why you disagree with him?
Liberals have such hatred for people of faith they can't gather their thoughts and calm their rage enough to have a civilized discussion on the matter and result to pure emotion.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:37 AM
 
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What you are doing here tonight anyway? The night before the election I would think that the Christian taliban would be locked in a prayer circle together. Or did I miss the executive order where Obama outlawed that?
This shows you are blatantly ignorant about Islam and Christianity. Christianity cannot in any way be compared to Islam, and the Taliban. Not in any intelligent forum.

Do you know what Sharia is? Do you know what a Caliphate is? It is Islam that is the threat to America, not Christianity.

Christianity and Biblical law has been the bedrock of our legal system. Do you know what the scales represent? Equal justice under the law.

In Islam, there is no equal justice, especially for women. I suggest you find out what you are talking about before comparing Christianity to Islam. You are clueless.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:40 AM
 
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This shows you are blatantly ignorant about Islam and Christianity. Christianity cannot in any way be compared to Islam, and the Taliban. Not in any intelligent forum.

Do you know what Sharia is? Do you know what a Caliphate is? It is Islam that is the threat to America, not Christianity.

Christianity and Biblical law has been the bedrock of our legal system. Do you know what the scales represent? Equal justice under the law.

In Islam, there is no equal justice, especially for women. I suggest you find out what you are talking about before comparing Christianity to Islam. You are clueless.
The liberal hatred towards Christianity centers around one issue: homosexuality. Islam, the religion generally supported by liberals, believes gays should be killed. Of course they will say the Bible says the same thing but the difference is Christ came and did away with the Old Testament law, while Islam still has it on the books. Christianity still believes it sin because of Romans 1 but when you get down to it Christianity is far more "tolerant" than Islam of homosexuality.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:48 AM
 
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Oh, then I take it you will be voting for Obama tomorrow in keeping with Proverbs 29:7:

"The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern."
Wrong. Obama cares not about the poor.

Why don't you read the rest of that Proverb? The next line says, "Mockers stir up a city, but wise men turn away anger." Prov 29:8

It is Obama who has been mocking Christianity. Recall the infamous quote "... clinging to their guns and religion..."

Proverbs 29:2
When the righteous thrive, the people rejoice;
when the wicked rule, the people groan.

There has been an awful lot of groaning the last four years.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:56 AM
 
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Oh yes, Janelle. Everyone on foodstamps, every single person, is milking the system, aren't they? I'd rather ensure that those who are truly hungry and going without are fed, even if that means that some are enabled to take advantage of the system. I happily have that money come out of my paycheck.
At least you're still working. Thanks to Obama, a lot of people aren't. He has forced many to seek government assistance. What they really need is a job. But, Obama has no clue where jobs come from or who creates them, and his ObamaCare is the biggest contributor to job loss in this country.
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