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One percent is low, it simply could be because of the large Asian population who come for cultures where cramming for tests are the norm. So they simply get a bulk of the admittances because so many of them score high that the Black students who score high simply don't score high enough to get in.
There have been complaints from White students out West who complain about Asians taking up the slots.
Maybe that is the case, but to me that is still very suspicious. There are more black people than Asians in NYC and many African and Carribbean students also cram to excess. Just by shear numbers, more than 1% of black people should be in those schools so I don't believe that for a minute.
I feel that whites would have reason to complain if they are relegated to 20% of slots at specific schools out west based on their population sizes. I personally feel that in NYC and maybe similar schools, money has more to do with admission than anything else, that an connections at the school or at the school board who determines who gets in. Also most selective enrollments do not base admission primarily on test scores. They usually require that an applicant score in a specific percentil, say 98th percentile or better, but then they use other criteria to determine admission and they interview applicants and I just cannot believe that with all the available smart black youths in NYC that only 1% are eligible for these schools. Even the most prestigious boarding/prep schools in the country will look at those who score 98th percentile or better, then base their decision on essays, which a lot of foreigners will lack skills with over someone who is a native English speaker, community involvement, extracurricular activity (usually not athletic), and an in-peron or over the phone interview.
The same is done for selective enrollments in Chicago and other big cities in the country and I doubt they don't have the same processes in NYC. If 20% of black Chicago students can score well enough on tests like the SSAT, then I just don't buy it that NYC black youth cannot pass in high percentages like they can.
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The other main difference between the President and Gov. Romney was political ideology. Obama stands for those who want government to redistribute wealth and provide more goods and services to the electorate while Romney stood for those who want government to downsize. ....
No, the main difference was that Romney wanted the rich to continue paying less taxes as a percentage than the middle class, less than their fair share ..... and he was in favor of exporting US jobs abroad.
It's clear you're incapable of adult debate. Please refrain from posting to me.
Dude, you can't even answer the question. Who's the one acting like a kid? I asked you if you, your little brother, mother, and father can compete. The last time I checked, you were all black. You are the one that came on this site saying that blacks like socialism because they can't compete in the private sector. Now I am asking you if you think that is true based on actual data from your own family. It's not really that hard.
Yawn who said anything about these problems being exclusive to Blacks?
sorry. i was attributing an earlier post from someone else to you.
the message is still the same though, to me. I don't understand why anyone would think that little kids are going to miraculously start doing well in poor school environments when the messages they're getting at home are more or less telling them that they don't need to. When you then pack those kids in, 30 to a classroom, it's not a learning environment, it's daycare. They don't have a chance.
Outside of the wealthiest districts we still have an education system that's set up to turn 19th century european immigrants into good factory workers or, at best, middle management at said factories. The kids in my neighborhood are still in the same building that kids went to when this neighborhood was built 130 years ago.
At the rate that we're defunding public education there should be no surprise that there's an achievement gap.
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I notice that's a 2% decline from the 2008 election when the black vote was 95%. I'm part of the 7%. I didn't vote for Romney either because I don't believe in the two-party system.
What have the two parties done for America in the last 20-30 years, people?
I say that there needs to be a more rigorous attention to the STEM department. Mathematics, Sciences, and Technology need to be emphasized alot more in schools these days. Also, low expectations need to be ended. More needs to be expected of ALL students, including Black students. I would say one of the reasons is that from Black students, not as much is expected. The expectation level needs to raised, and it needs to be raised from day on starting in kindergarten.
"Mathematics, Sciences, and Technology need to be emphasized alot more in schools these days."
Good points and not the usual bashing that goes on in these threads.
Absolutely, and if we are all going to compete in the world economy we need to encourage this from all of our kids.
The other thing I see is the over emphasis of sports as a potential career path as opposed to math and sciences. I coach youth sports and the kids that I coach are mostly Black with a few Hispanics and an occasional White player. Even though I have coached some extremely talented kids, out of all of the kids I coached over the years not one that I know of has made it to the pros. I would say half of the parents are pushing football or basketball as a highly likely career path. some of the kids didn't even want to play ball and the parents force it on them. In reality that energy would be better served pushing Math, Sciences or even the Arts.
When my players ask me if I think they can go all the way in Football, Basketball or Baseball I don't discourage them but I tell them their odds are 1 in 100 that they will play in college and 1 in 10000 to make it to the pros. I usually will tell them if they want to be almost assured of doing well in life become Banker, Lawyer, IT proffesional or an Engineer.
Sadly there's no evidence that the Democrats have the guts to take on the inner-city unions which run our schools by mandating that any math, science, tech, or enginerring teacher must have an advanced degree.
Sadly there's no evidence that the Democrats have the guts to take on the inner-city unions which run our schools by mandating that any math, science, tech, or enginerring teacher must have an advanced degree.
They can't find them and go with long term subs...
Don't black folks know that King Obama sold them down the river? His amnesty for immigration program is just going to hurt them even more...as Hispanics take their jobs. Can't fix stupid.
...and I don't know ONE single black person who even wanted to vote for them.
That's a pretty weak ass argument, dude. Maybe blacks voted for him because (and this is a shocker) they felt he was the best for the job. There are some blacks who did vote for Obama just because he was black (in the first election), but going up against a guy like Romney and all his foot-in-mouth comments during the election just pretty much gauranteed the black vote again.
Now, would it be fair for me to say that all MOROMONS voted for Romney just because of it? Hell no. Grow up.
I admit I haven't read all 399 posts on this thread. However, I saw the topic and want to say that I wouldn't care if 100% of Blacks voted for Obama. It makes no difference to me. If they live in America, are legal American citizens, they have a right to vote. So my answer to this entire thread is "So what?"
President Obama won 332 electoral college votes. He won states with tiny percentages of African-Americans. Vermont - 1.1% / Maine - 1.3% / New Hampshire - 1.3% / Oregon - 2.0% / Iowa - 3.1% / Washington - 3.8% / Hawaii - 2.0% / Minnesota - 5.4%
I don't want to look up the rest, but I think I made my point.
Republicans will always make excuses and never admit that they ran a lousy campaign and people are really sick of their do-nothing party that has little concern about working class issues, women's issues and caring for the elderly, not to mention they seem to attract a lot of lunatics!
When Iowa went to Obama, a Republican I know said to me "It's because of all the corn. After all, Obama is anti-drilling and corn can be used for ethanol." So I asked "So what about Nebraska? Isn't that called the Cornhusker state?"
I wish they'd all stop whining and finally do something to move our country forward.
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