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Old 11-11-2012, 12:24 AM
 
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That entire map is distorted.
You're an idiot. You STILL fail to account for population density. Most of that red has relatively little population compare to most of the blue.

The 300 square mile area of NYC has more of a population then a 20,000 square mile area of somewhere in the plains or intermountain west. This is why it is easy to see that it is a sea of red in the sparsely populated areas of the country.

Why else is vote more important in areas where it isn't dominated by red or blue?

This is simply you being stubborn trying to prove a point that only makes you look silly and desperate. Any one with common sense would know the trickery.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Prove that "mistakes" were made..
I don't have to. The Tallahassee newspaper already did. But, of course, never let the facts get in the way of a good fantasy. Haha - a lot of good believing their own BS did them this time around. Of course, had it come down to FL, they would stolen the election again. Glad Obama didn't need FL this time around.

Too bad you support such crooks.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:49 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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You're an idiot. You STILL fail to account for population density. Most of that red has relatively little population compare to most of the blue.

The 300 square mile area of NYC has more of a population then a 20,000 square mile area of somewhere in the plains or intermountain west. This is why it is easy to see that it is a sea of red in the sparsely populated areas of the country.

Why else is vote more important in areas where it isn't dominated by red or blue?

This is simply you being stubborn trying to prove a point that only makes you look silly and desperate. Any one with common sense would know the trickery.
YOU still fail to understand the reasoning behind the electoral college. It was designed so that high population centers could not dictate whom would be the president.

In 1788 and 1792 - those centers were New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Massachusetts. In 2008 and 2012 the centers are New York, California, Texas, and Florida.

The fact is that despite the electoral college - most of the country is conservative now in 2012 - but the electoral college ensures that a balanced vote influences who wins.

Most of the country voted for Bush in 2000 - no matter what the popular vote ended up as - and a great number of people voted for Romney in this election. Obama did not get a mandate, and this was by no means a "landslide" no matter what the liberals try to claim.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:53 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Glad Obama didn't need FL this time around.
Thanks for your honesty - even if it only demonstrates your dishonesty.

Bush won that election fair and square - just as he did in 2004.

But you libs can't accept that your ideas were rejected and that is WHY your candidate lost.

So - you have to claim that the election was "stolen".

Ab - so - lute - ly PATHETIC.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:12 AM
 
Location: west mich
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Thanks for your honesty - even if it only demonstrates your dishonesty.

Bush won that election fair and square - just as he did in 2004.

But you libs can't accept that your ideas were rejected and that is WHY your candidate lost.

So - you have to claim that the election was "stolen".

Ab - so - lute - ly PATHETIC.
Where do you find the time for all this? Do right-wingers double-space their posts to make them more imposing? Gawd.
Repubs are either low-information voters or fascists, but when normal people get some knowledge they realize how Fox-type media is deceiving them. This is why the color of Florida is shifting - they're relying more on the internet and don't have to rely on the likes of Fox. More reason for repubs to fight expansion of the internet into rural areas, and for repub-owned ISPs to lobby for internet content control.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:21 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Where do you find the time for all this? Do right-wingers double-space their posts to make them more imposing? Gawd.
Repubs are either low-information voters or fascists, but when normal people get some knowledge they realize how Fox-type media is deceiving them. This is why the color of Florida is shifting - they're relying more on the internet and don't have to rely on the likes of Fox. More reason for repubs to fight expansion of the internet into rural areas, and for repub-owned ISPs to lobby for internet content control.
I read my local newspapers - the big ones(Los Angeles Times and Orange County Register) which are equally divided as liberal and conservative(and even the Register is becoming more liberal - as the county which they serve is changing politically as we type) - and the truly local one(from my home city) which is liberal.

I don't watch TV - unless a good college football game is being broadcast, a political debate is on, or the rare time when I might tune in to Discovery Channel, History Channel, or TLC (which is every few months - maybe).

So, I don't know what you mean by talking about Fox News - I have no idea what their programming is about.

Apparently you do know - so that means that you must watch Fox News - and seeing as you talk like that is a "bad thing" - maybe you should stop doing so.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:42 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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most of the country is conservative now in 2012.
This past election cycle says otherwise. The country has moved middle-left on a lot of social issues and you're just too ignorant to see that.

Now maybe...MAYBE an argument can be made about the fiscal issues, but to say that most of the country is conservative? Sorry sparky, you don't speak for me or for most of the nation because again, the 6th election results says differently.

Try again.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:49 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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This past election cycle says otherwise. The country has moved middle-left on a lot of social issues and you're just too ignorant to see that.

Now maybe...MAYBE an argument can be made about the fiscal issues, but to say that most of the country is conservative? Sorry sparky, you don't speak for me or for most of the nation because again, the 6th election results says differently.

Try again.
6th election results?

What does that mean?
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:49 AM
 
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Um, population density matters.
Yes, everyone knows its easier to buy votes in highly populated areas. Things like federal money for busines, trains, subways, stadiums, teachers, police etc..

Must be great to support a party who has to buy your vote..
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:58 AM
 
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YOU still fail to understand the reasoning behind the electoral college. It was designed so that high population centers could not dictate whom would be the president.

In 1788 and 1792 - those centers were New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Massachusetts. In 2008 and 2012 the centers are New York, California, Texas, and Florida.

The fact is that despite the electoral college - most of the country is conservative now in 2012 - but the electoral college ensures that a balanced vote influences who wins.

Most of the country voted for Bush in 2000 - no matter what the popular vote ended up as - and a great number of people voted for Romney in this election. Obama did not get a mandate, and this was by no means a "landslide" no matter what the liberals try to claim.
1)If most of the country is conservative, THEN WHY DID MITT ROMNEY NOT EASILY WIN THE ELECTION? Your torture of logic knows no bounds.

2)If that's the case, then why are the states with the largest cities the ones who contain the most electoral votes? Cali for example has 3 major population cities: LA, San Diego, and SF. That is a whopping 55 electoral votes...Seems to me like the electoral college still favors high density states of the country.

3)If Al won the popular vote, then how did most of the country vote for Bush in 2000???! Even if Bush did win, it was by very, very little. just like how you are all claiming Obama won in this election. Why do you apply different, favorable rules to conservative candidates? Try being fair...it makes your argument look better and not completely biased.

You're a partisan hack and it shows greatly in many of your posts. You along with others on this forum make all conservatives seem like idiots and illogical, when I know this isn't the case because I know many intelligent conservatives in real life.

It's no wonder you a long with other conservatives on this forum thought Romney would win in a landslide. You can't even think for yourself and come up with logical, sound arguments. Take an intro class in Philosophy, then come back and argue with me with sound, valid arguments.
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