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Old 11-09-2012, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Grew up? More like they have their heads up their butts and don't have a clue what's going on! The economy is going to get worse - companies already laying off in anticipation of Obamacare - and we are going to have terrorists in our streets because they are not afraid of Obama. When it happens, don't say we didn't tell your. Good job, Obama voters! You voted to destroy our country and you're too dumb to realize it.
You guys have been saying most of the stuff for the last 4 years. It's the very type of fear tactics that cost you the election. You just don't get the fact that people are tired of that stuff and are banding together for a positive future. When is all the country destroying supposed to start anyway?
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:38 PM
 
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What happens if the economy is flourishing by 2016? Are you going to find other ways to make Obama the worst president ever?
It won't be. Obama doesn't have a clue how to fix the economy. We are on a downhill slide.
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:39 PM
 
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You guys have been saying most of the stuff for the last 4 years. It's the very type of fear tactics that cost you the election. You just don't get the fact that people are tired of that stuff and are banding together for a positive future. When is all the country destroying supposed to start anyway?
I haven't been saying that for the last four years. And it's not "fear tactics" - it's the truth. If Obama knows how to fix the economy and knows how to deal with terrorists, why are more people unemployed now then when he was elected? And why were four Americans killed in Benghazi while the White House watched and did nothing?

If Obama knows what to do, why hasn't he already done in the last four years? Instead he has put us deeper in debt than ever before, our credit rating has been downgraded, our military isn't strong and our enemies know it, and our enemies are not afraid of Obama. Things are WORSE than when Obama took office. And yet people were stupid enough to give him four more years after he did nothing but make things worse the last four years.
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:40 PM
 
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It won't be. Obama doesn't have a clue how to fix the economy. We are on a downhill slide.
Yet we had 30 months of consecutive job growth in the private sector along with dropping unemployment numbers. I don't call that downhill at all. It's a slow, but steady recovery.

I'm looking forward to what Obama will do with this fiscal cliff coming up.
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Florida
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"He's a muslim sympathizer, not a citizen, pals around with terrorists, granny death camps, socialist, communist, terrorist bla bla bla" and all the rest of the right wing lies and paranoia - We've been hearing these lies and this kind of hate and fear mongering for the past 4 years and that's what we rejected. He inherited a disastrous economy decades in the making and the fact is the economy IS improving, Obama DID save the auto industry, unemployment is decreasing, he DID prevent a full blown depression. Thank you president Obama for putting your country first and standing up to the hateful, venomous, sneering, smearing right wing pit bulls with such class and dignity.
If you look at Obama's decisions, his refusal to call a terrorist a terrorist you might be able to connect the dots.

No lies at all. Obama himself wants to spread the wealth around. He said it himself. Obama creates class warfare against the rich. They are the markers for what a socialist marxist is.

A 15 person panel who knows nothing about medicine will make a decision on who will get what treatment under Obamacare.

No improvement in the economy. There was hope if Romney got in to fix this mess , but will Obama the Obamacare kicking in will cut jobs because of the cost to cover everyone. More lay offs , more foreclosures.

Unemployment is not decreasing because millions have left the workforce and the welfare rolls are increasing. People are going off unemployment onto welfare and disability. The work force has decreased dramatically.

You don't look too closely at what is really happening because you don't want to. I know what is going on and you are uninformed.
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:43 PM
 
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Yet we had 30 months of consecutive job growth in the private sector along with dropping unemployment numbers. I don't call that downhill at all. It's a slow, but steady recovery.

I'm looking forward to what Obama will do with this fiscal cliff coming up.
Bullcrap. We did not have job growth. We had people unemployed and underemployed. People stopped looking for work and were no longer counted because they were no longer receiving unemployment benefits. That is a LIE.
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:44 PM
 
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I haven't been saying that for the last four years. And it's not "fear tactics" - it's the truth. If Obama knows how to fix the economy and knows how to deal with terrorists, why are more people unemployed now then when he was elected? And why were four Americans killed in Benghazi while the White House watched and did nothing?

If Obama knows what to do, why hasn't he already done in the last four years? Instead he has put us deeper in debt than ever before, our credit rating has been downgraded, our military isn't strong and our enemies know it, and our enemies are not afraid of Obama. Things are WORSE than when Obama took office. And yet people were stupid enough to give him four more years after he did nothing but make things worse the last four years.
When Obama was elected, we were in the middle of the recession. It's hard for ANYONE to instantly fix the economy as soon as they are elected. The last 2 years have seen continuous job growth and unemployment dropping.

Did you really expected Obama to get unemployment numbers to sub-5% levels in 4 years while in the middle of possible the worst recession since the 1930s?

I will say though, Obama did spend a lot of time and effort into getting Obamacare passed and it isn't the best thing he could have done. There are things that need to be changed with it.
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:47 PM
 
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When Obama was elected, we were in the middle of the recession. It's hard for ANYONE to instantly fix the economy as soon as they are elected. The last 2 years have seen continuous job growth and unemployment dropping.

Did you really expected Obama to get unemployment numbers to sub-5% levels in 4 years while in the middle of possible the worst recession since the 1930s?

I will say though, Obama did spend a lot of time and effort into getting Obamacare passed and it isn't the best thing he could have done. There are things that need to be changed with it.
Obama himself said he was going to get the employment numbers below 4%. It was one of his promises. But there has NOT been continuous job growth and unemployment dropping. As I said, that is a LIE. Where have jobs been created? Where? And the only reason unemployment has "dropped" is that people GAVE UP AND STOPPED LOOKING FOR WORK.

Obamacare is another thing forced down our throats that is going to take us even deeper into debt.
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:51 PM
 
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Bullcrap. We did not have job growth. We had people unemployed and underemployed. People stopped looking for work and were no longer counted because they were no longer receiving unemployment benefits. That is a LIE.
It's been a lot easier for my friends to find a job now then it was back in 2009 and 2010. My dad went from making nearly no money in 2009 to making nearly 200,000 dollars in 2012.

It's been better for many more people then you think. You can go look at Midtown Atlanta and see that the economy is better. There are now more skyscrapers and development occurring NOW then in 2009.

It's almost obvious and evident things are much better now then in 2008 and 2009. You're blinded and shadowed by hate and spite. You will at all cost refuse to give Obama benefit of the doubt.

But hey, Reagan also had a terrible economy in his first term and I don't hear repub. screaming about that. Only in his 2nd term, did the economy begin to flourish again.
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Also it proves that the people who voted in 2008 also voted in 2012, so that means 2008 wasn't an abnormality in the election and the Republicans will have to adjust to meet the needs of the changing voter pool....granted in the House they can continue to be a bag of crazy cause they have so many safe seats, we can only hope the primaries kicks out the far-right and replaces them with moderates....I so hope the Republicans wise up and realize the country needs moderate conservatives in their party, not the far right.
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