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Old 12-05-2012, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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A survey is useless just because a lot of the respondents are complete morons?

I guess we should limit surveys to whatever segment of the population will give you the answers you want to hear. Sounds real scientific.
A survey is useless when it adds questions in an effort to paint a lot of its respondents as complete morons. I don't expect you to understand this concept.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:29 AM
 
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BTW, the Democrats in the poll answered that particular question as well.
2% of Obama voters said yes, to that question, compared to 49% of Romney voters. Your point?
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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2% of Obama voters said yes, to that question, compared to 49% of Romney voters. Your point?
Your point was that Republicans answered a question about a defunct organization as though it still existed. My point is that the Democrats did as well. Or maybe you can show me a foot note for this poll that indicates that Democrats were not fooled?
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:24 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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And whaddaya bet most of that same 50% are also Birthers....

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Your point was that Republicans answered a question about a defunct organization as though it still existed. My point is that the Democrats did as well. Or maybe you can show me a foot note for this poll that indicates that Democrats were not fooled?
BTW, y'all seem to be really big on that thang of ''whatever it is, Democrats are just as bat-sh*t crazy as we are''!
Feeling a bit put upon are we...?
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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And whaddaya bet most of that same 50% are also Birthers....



BTW, y'all seem to be really big on that thang of ''whatever it is, Democrats are just as bat-sh*t crazy as we are''!
Feeling a bit put upon are we...?
Just replying on a messageboard.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:05 PM
 
Location: 44.9800° N, 93.2636° W
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ACORN is such a scam and waste. It is possible and probable.
....and non-existent.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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A survey is useless when it adds questions in an effort to paint a lot of its respondents as complete morons. I don't expect you to understand this concept.
They asked the same question after the 2008 election.
A perfectly sound methodology when one wants to compare previous data to current.
Perhaps that concept is difficult to understand?

From the summary:

"49% of GOP voters nationally say they think that ACORN stole the election for President Obama. We found that 52% of Republicans thought that ACORN stole the 2008 election for Obama, so this is a modest decline, but perhaps smaller than might have been expected given that ACORN doesn't exist anymore."
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:41 PM
 
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Journalists and pollsters both sometimes ask a "trick" or a baseline type question in an interview to see if the person being interviewed has any clue about what they're talking about, because people DO BS and pretend to know things all the time. If they can't answer the question correctly, you know the rest is pointless. Its one way to measure the credibility of the person you're interviewing if it hasn't been established through other sources. There was nothing unethical or silly about PPP asking the ACORN question this round.
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:54 PM
 
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Yep;took their Obama stimulus money and ran ;not having picked up a shovel.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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They asked the same question after the 2008 election.
A perfectly sound methodology when one wants to compare previous data to current.
Perhaps that concept is difficult to understand?
So, by your reasoning. A polling firm that asked the question "Do you think the SCOTUS stole the election for Bush in 2000" should have asked the same question in 2004? Ya' know, just to compare the previous data to current?

PPP leans left, they used to work for the Daily KOS for crying out loud. Their motivation is to illustrate that only a loon would vote against Barack Obama.
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