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So Lincoln who ended slavery, or Teddy Roosevelt who created our national parks system, or Eisenhower who warned of the dangers of the ''military/industrial complex'', all weren't Republican ''lib-ruls''?
Actually your attitude is a perfect example of what's gone wrong with the GOP these days... which has become literally obsessed with ideology, ''labels'', and party purity... rather than being a party of ideas, leadership, vision and even just common sense!
We are talking now, the country is a different place now and one issue doesn't make a person liberal, moderate or conservative. Creating the park system could hardly be called a liberal. Do you think, we Republicans think everything dealing with the federal government is liberal if it is part of the tax system. If you do, you are not very intuned to how many of us feel. As for Eisenhower, again, he certainly was not a liberal, but no, he wasn't an over the top conservative. I don't think I am nearly as obsessed with labels or with anything as many on the left are. I am really very moderate when it comes to most issues..I see both sides, I have never seen any indication you see anyway but your own...My opinion only, we all have them.
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We are talking now, the country is a different place now and one issue doesn't make a person liberal, moderate or conservative. Creating the park system could hardly be called a liberal. Do you think, we Republicans think everything dealing with the federal government is liberal if it is part of the tax system. If you do, you are not very intuned to how many of us feel. As for Eisenhower, again, he certainly was not a liberal, but no, he wasn't an over the top conservative. I don't think I am nearly as obsessed with labels or with anything as many on the left are. I am really very moderate when it comes to most issues..I see both sides, I have never seen any indication you see anyway but your own...My opinion only, we all have them.
Oh puleeze... assuming you can even find a non-doctrinaire conservative here, you can't hardly have a discussion before they start 'equivocating' whether they're a ''constitutional conservative'', a ''serious'' conservative, a ''social conservative'', or a ''fiscal'', ''libertarian'', ''Free Market'', or ''states rights'' one... let alone whether they're even a Republican!!! And all your semantic tap-dancing is exactly the same kinda ideological nonsense.
Or maybe you never heard of "Rockefeller Republicans" either... probably not so surprising ever since the FOX addicts and RWNJ's have purged even most of the moderates (aka, sane ones)!
Rockefeller Republican (often termed "moderate Republican") refers to a faction of the United States Republican Party who hold moderate to liberal views on some issues similar to those of Nelson Rockefeller.
Oh puleeze... assuming you can even find a non-doctrinaire conservative here, you can't hardly have a discussion before they start 'equivocating' whether they're a ''constitutional conservative'', a ''serious'' conservative, a ''social conservative'', or a ''fiscal'', ''libertarian'', ''Free Market'', or ''states rights'' one... let alone whether they're even a Republican!!! And all your semantic tap-dancing is exactly the same kinda ideological nonsense.
Or maybe you never heard of "Rockefeller Republicans" either... probably not so surprising ever since the FOX addicts and RWNJ's have purged even most of the moderates (aka, sane ones)!
Rockefeller Republican (often termed "moderate Republican") refers to a faction of the United States Republican Party who hold moderate to liberal views on some issues similar to those of Nelson Rockefeller.
I realize I am wasting my time even replying to you, but I will just this time: I was a Rockerfeller Republican for years...and where do you get the idea I am a FOX addict??
I realize I am wasting my time even replying to you, but I will just this time: I was a Rockerfeller Republican for years...and where do you get the idea I am a FOX addict??
Could have fooled me considering you were going on and on about how you thought they were losers. With that said I don't know that there are many Rockefeller Republicans left in the Republican party. I would suspect that most are now Democrats.
Probably not - but Biden was very important to Obama in 2012. He forced Obama's hand on marriage equality, connected with blue collar whites in the Midwest for Obama, and jumpstarted Obama's comeback in the VP debates.
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I realize I am wasting my time even replying to you, but I will just this time: I was a Rockerfeller Republican for years...and where do you get the idea I am a FOX addict??
Could have fooled me considering you were going on and on about how you thought they were losers. With that said I don't know that there are many Rockefeller Republicans left in the Republican party. I would suspect that most are now Democrats.
could you give me one place where I even indicated I thought they were losers. I don't happen to think mnay people are losers, certainly I don't think people who do not share my views are losers, unless they are so set in thier ways they can't even open thier eyes or ears. I probably was a little more middle of the road on some issues, especially fiscally many years ago than now: on social issues I am visa versa, more moderate now.. There were many Rockerfeller Rebulicans 30 or 40 years ago, most are either no longer liveing or are seeing politics in a dffferent light. Rockerfeller would roll over if he say the nations dept today or witnessed the entitlement generation, especially saw how many are living on or depending on goverment handouts. I guess you would have had to be alive and adult then to understand how different things are..
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