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If he is going to run with tea party support, then I think Rand Paul would siphon off a bunch of votes, especially from those that are fiscally conservative, but believe the government should mind its own business when it comes to marriage, marijuana, etc..
I really wonder if the birthers are going to come out? If they dont, then it would make one think it was race based with Obama.
Personally, I dont think it shouldnt be an issue, since his mother was a us citizen, but I wonder if the outcry will be consistent?
If he runs, it definitely make things interesting...
Where are the conservatives asking if Cruz is a natural born citizen?
Sealed academic records, for starters. When you fight to keep your past locked away, I get to call your past secretive.
What fight? What the hell are you talking about? Are you talking about a law signed by Gerald Ford when Obama was 13 fighting to keep his academic records locked??
ah- The sealed academic records! The last dying gasp of the birthers!
OK ringwise. Name one university that will release a person's academic record with no permission from the person or without a court order to pass them over. Prove up, now. Let's see what ya got.
You won't because you can't. They are private, just like a doctor's records or a lawyer's records. There has to be legal cause for anyone to obtain another's academic records, and the birther's cause has been turned down over 200 times and counting now. No legal cause, no records. No ticket, no shirt.
What is public from those records is the announcement of the degrees a person achieves upon graduation, and everyone knows Obama's degrees. Since the records are scholastic, whatever addresses that are in them are obsolete, and universities don't take citizenship into account. A person can be an illegal North Korean immigrant serving time in prison for murder and still get a degree.
I gotta admire birthers, though. They're like zombies. No matter how many times they get shot by the courts, they lurch back up on their feet and continue to stumble around the front yard.
Cruz would eventually be a good choice, but I actually think he needs more name recognition, and over time, I think he'll get that. He'd provide a very good (and needed) contrast to the tax-and-spend, job-killing, America-hating left. Right now, it's still too early to talk about him as candidate for President. Not in 2016, anyway. He'd make a good running mate, however. But there are some other fine, up-and-coming players in the GOP for 2016.
The thing is, the GOP had better get on the same page regarding principles. The establishment is the problem right now and that must be addressed.
Cruz would eventually be a good choice, but I actually think he needs more name recognition, and over time, I think he'll get that. He'd provide a very good (and needed) contrast to the tax-and-spend, job-killing, America-hating left. Right now, it's still too early to talk about him as candidate for President. Not in 2016, anyway. He'd make a good running mate, however. But there are some other fine, up-and-coming players in the GOP for 2016.
The thing is, the GOP had better get on the same page regarding principles. The establishment is the problem right now and that must be addressed.
Ted TParty is like a zit, once you pop it, it goes away.
basically citizen at birth = "natural born citizen"
If that's the truth, then why was it ever a big deal where Obama was born. We know he was born in Hawaii. But if he had been born in Kenya, he still had one American parent. Will the "birthers" simply state their interpretation of the law and try to stop Cruz's nomination because we KNOW that he was born out of the country?
Where are the conservatives asking if Cruz is a natural born citizen?
Why would we ask? How many liberals questioned Obama's right to be our President? If there were any, I certainly never heard them or saw any postings questioning his legitimacy? All you have to do is check the response just prior to mine. Depending which side one is on, determines who will cry "non citizen" this works both ways. I am amazed some people do not understand this.
If that's the truth, then why was it ever a big deal where Obama was born.
there actually is a slight variant in the law concerning this. there is an age/residency restriction for US mothers to automatically confer citizenship to births abroad ( US citizenship for the child could be easily obtained on the return to the US for mothers who did not meet this requirement ). cruz's mother met the requirement, obama's did not. some of the birthers have picked up on this and use it as a reason why cruz is eligible and obama isn't but....... that theory still requires a kenya birth for obama.
and what's the evidence for that?:
kenyan birth:
an admitted hoax birth certificate (bomford), a forgery,with misspelt name in a signature, from a convicted forger ( lucas smith ) and an admitted f*ck-up from a literary assistant ( mariam goderich )
Why would we ask? How many liberals questioned Obama's right to be our President?
phil berg for starters. democrat attorney and hillary clinton supporter who filed the first birther lawsuit. then there were the PUMAs ( party unity my ass ), hillary supporters who were among the early birthers.
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All you have to do is check the response just prior to mine. Depending which side one is on, determines who will cry "non citizen" this works both ways. I am amazed some people do not understand this.
not really. please read thru the eligibility threads on this forum. it's nearly unanimously conservative birthers that are claiming cruz is ineligible due to the fact that his father was cuban and/or he was born outside the US ( altho there are some liberals that are questioning his eligibility due to being born in canada but they are greatly outnumbered ).
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