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Old 06-11-2013, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Howard County, MD
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They can only win the White House if they can convince enough of the electorate that aren't against everyone who isn't an affluent, straight white man. A Latino candidate might be able to help them with this, but demographics are shifting way in favor of the Dems.
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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They can only win the White House if they can convince enough of the electorate that aren't against everyone who isn't an affluent, straight white man. A Latino candidate might be able to help them with this, but demographics are shifting way in favor of the Dems.
If you really think about the most likely candidates in 2016, you will see, they are anything but old, white, affluent males. Just take a good look: thus my guess is: whomever is the nominee will not be against many issues that seem very important today. We will just have to wait and see. I don't think gay versus straight will be as big an issue as amnesty, world affairs, the economy and some of the crap that has come to the surface in the past few weeks. At least I hope it isn't an issue.
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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If you really think about the most likely candidates in 2016, you will see, they are anything but old, white, affluent males. Just take a good look: thus my guess is: whomever is the nominee will not be against many issues that seem very important today. We will just have to wait and see. I don't think gay versus straight will be as big an issue as amnesty, world affairs, the economy and some of the crap that has come to the surface in the past few weeks. At least I hope it isn't an issue.
I recall seeing a poll of Hispanics recently that said two thirds of Hispanic voters would never vote for a candidate that opposed any type of amnesty. I would bet the same would hold true for Asian voters. As far as gay rights, I believe it was a recent Pew poll of age 30 and under that showed 1 out of 4 would never vote for a candidate that was opposed to same sex marriage.
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I recall seeing a poll of Hispanics recently that said two thirds of Hispanic voters would never vote for a candidate that opposed any type of amnesty. I would bet the same would hold true for Asian voters. As far as gay rights, I believe it was a recent Pew poll of age 30 and under that showed 1 out of 4 would never vote for a candidate that was opposed to same sex marriage.
I agree on what you are saying right now, but 3 years is a lifetime in politics, I absolutely do not believe any poll that says, 2/3 of the Hispanics would not vote for a candidate that does not support amnesty to its fullest. I have a gut feeling the % of Asians would be a little different. As for gay marriage, that part I agree with full heartedly but 1 in 4 is a very low number, not to mention a huge number of young people do not vote, especially unless there is a candidate that really excites them.
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Old 06-13-2013, 02:03 PM
 
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I agree on what you are saying right now, but 3 years is a lifetime in politics, I absolutely do not believe any poll that says, 2/3 of the Hispanics would not vote for a candidate that does not support amnesty to its fullest. I have a gut feeling the % of Asians would be a little different. As for gay marriage, that part I agree with full heartedly but 1 in 4 is a very low number, not to mention a huge number of young people do not vote, especially unless there is a candidate that really excites them.
2/3 of Hispanics would not vote for someone who opposes amnesty...

as far as young people not voting... not sure why some in the GOP keep shrugging their shoulders when it comes to young people or urban votes. You don't win elections by shrinking your voting blocks.
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Old 06-13-2013, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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2/3 of Hispanics would not vote for someone who opposes amnesty...

as far as young people not voting... not sure why some in the GOP keep shrugging their shoulders when it comes to young people or urban votes. You don't win elections by shrinking your voting blocks.
since when do you think the GOP is shrugging their shoulders at young voters? I simply mentioned, young voters do not vote in the same % as older voters unless there is a candidate that really excites them. This has always been the case...and probably always will.
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Old 06-14-2013, 03:19 AM
 
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I recall seeing a poll of Hispanics recently that said two thirds of Hispanic voters would never vote for a candidate that opposed any type of amnesty. I would bet the same would hold true for Asian voters. As far as gay rights, I believe it was a recent Pew poll of age 30 and under that showed 1 out of 4 would never vote for a candidate that was opposed to same sex marriage.
It's about the same with them as well- 2/3rds support amnesty. What's happened with Asian voters is they've seen how Hispanics have been treated by the GOP and out of concern they'll be targeted next their voting patterns have shifted to mostly Democratic as well, to the point in the last election they voted more Democratic than Hispanics.

Republicans' problems with Asian voters is going to be just as big a problem a couple cycles down the road because unlike Hispanics, their turnout is more like white voters relative to their share of the population, and they've recently overtaken Hispanics as both the fastest-growing and the largest immigrant group, making up half of all immigrants to the US for the past couple years, the vast majority of them through legal means, meaning they get to start voting sooner.

Beyond that about 10% of undocumented immigrants are of Asian origin, so it's not as if they're not paying close attention to the immigration reform nonsense going on right now.
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