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Old 08-18-2013, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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The GOP’s biggest problem is that Democrats start with 246 electoral votes

Can a Republican Win 270 Electoral Votes in 2016...or Ever? - The Daily Beast

 
Old 08-18-2013, 06:30 PM
 
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The Republican Party will probably never win another national election. They sealed their fate with bush - they just don't realize it yet.
 
Old 08-18-2013, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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We heard the same about the democrats in other years. With the recent poll shifts on Obamacare if the election was today the outcome may have been different.
 
Old 08-18-2013, 07:16 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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We heard the same about the democrats in other years. With the recent poll shifts on Obamacare if the election was today the outcome may have been different.
Im not going to pretend like i know all of history, so it may be true that many people said the same of Dems, but the Obamacare thing isnt even true.

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Fifty-two percent of Americans say they disapprove of the 2010 Affordable Care Act, while 44 percent approve. Last fall, 48 percent said they approved of the law and 45 percent disapproved. Americans have generally been divided in their views of the law since it was passed in 2010.

Read more: Summertime Blues: Polls show ObamaCare support eroding amid roll-out problems | Fox News
just to put that into prospective, here is a poll from 2009

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Approve 44%, disprove 50%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/121814/mo...ealthcare.aspx

If You go by CNN, it is actually more popular

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39% Approval, 59% disapproval
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/im...3/22/rel5a.pdf
you literally have to cross polls to find eroding support for Obamacare, most of those polled admit they dont even know what it is or does.

its moronic to argue against something if you dont even know what it is.

No, if the election was held today, President Obama would still win in a landslide like he did last time.

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Old 08-18-2013, 07:29 PM
 
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We heard the same about the democrats in other years. With the recent poll shifts on Obamacare if the election was today the outcome may have been different.
Hate to break it to you, but since the Obamacare hysteria is settling down, more Americans are approving of it, not disapproving, as the poster above me showed. When 2014 comes around and the effects of Obamacare are felt, I feel that Americans will embrace it even more. The GOP is on the wrong side of history with this one, and I think they will ay the price at the polls next November
 
Old 08-19-2013, 05:38 AM
 
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If you look at the electoral vote "floors" that each party is likely to start with, it's virtually impossible for the Republicans to win the presidency right now.
 
Old 08-19-2013, 06:25 AM
 
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The Republican Party will probably never win another national election. They sealed their fate with bush - they just don't realize it yet.
Here we go with another round of Democrats predicting the demise of the Republican party. Seems like I heard this before....now, when was that? Wait, it was right before the Republicans took the House in 2010.
 
Old 08-19-2013, 06:38 AM
 
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Hate to break it to you, but since the Obamacare hysteria is settling down, more Americans are approving of it, not disapproving, as the poster above me showed. When 2014 comes around and the effects of Obamacare are felt, I feel that Americans will embrace it even more. The GOP is on the wrong side of history with this one, and I think they will ay the price at the polls next November
Hate to break it to you, but since the Obamacare hysteria is amping up, more Americans are DISAPPROVING of it, not approving, as the poster above incorrectly showed. A poll from early 2010 is current?

July 25th, 2013
CBS/NYT Poll: More Americans Than Ever Support Obamacare Repeal - Guy Benson
CBS-NYT Poll
"The poll also found a majority of Americans - 54 percent - disapprove of the health care law, 36 percent of Americans approve of it and 10 percent said they don't know about it.?

March 22,2013
A poll from the nonpartisan, nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation, conducted March 5-10, found that just 37 percent of Americans have a favorable view of the law while 40 percent have an unfavorable view.

There's a partisan split in opinion, with 68 percent of Republicans saying they view the law unfavorably and 58 percent of Democrats saying they have a positive opinion of the law. Among independents, 31 percent have a favorable view, while 45 percent have an unfavorable view.
 
Old 08-19-2013, 06:53 AM
 
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Hate to break it to you, but since the Obamacare hysteria is amping up, more Americans are DISAPPROVING of it, not approving, as the poster above incorrectly showed. A poll from early 2010 is current?

July 25th, 2013
CBS/NYT Poll: More Americans Than Ever Support Obamacare Repeal - Guy Benson
CBS-NYT Poll
"The poll also found a majority of Americans - 54 percent - disapprove of the health care law, 36 percent of Americans approve of it and 10 percent said they don't know about it.?

March 22,2013
A poll from the nonpartisan, nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation, conducted March 5-10, found that just 37 percent of Americans have a favorable view of the law while 40 percent have an unfavorable view.

There's a partisan split in opinion, with 68 percent of Republicans saying they view the law unfavorably and 58 percent of Democrats saying they have a positive opinion of the law. Among independents, 31 percent have a favorable view, while 45 percent have an unfavorable view.
your Kaiser Family link is broken..
 
Old 08-19-2013, 07:20 AM
 
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Here we go with another round of Democrats predicting the demise of the Republican party. Seems like I heard this before....now, when was that? Wait, it was right before the Republicans took the House in 2010.
The GOP took the House by appealing to a narrow band of extremist in local elections. That's a decent strategy when only the diehard ideologues are paying attention. How did that work in the national election?
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