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Old 03-24-2014, 08:22 PM
 
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Who the hell is she? I'm not a political junkie, but do follow politics semi-regularly and I've never heard of her. Without knowing anything about her, I'd say brand recognition is her biggest problem.
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Old 03-24-2014, 10:31 PM
 
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Hmm--I'm surprised--Harrier is usually more knowledgeable. In reality, Lee Atwater the famous Republican strategist is the 'father of the politics of personal destruction,' which the Republicans continued to utilize after his death. He wrote the book on aggressively playing dirty, and that is pretty much an historical fact. Democrats finally mustered the backbone to fight back.

As far as the fabulous Republican candidates--if they had run one, the GOP most likely would not have lost the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 general elections.


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Are you sure? What about the infamous "DaisyGirl" commercial from 1964.
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Old 03-24-2014, 10:38 PM
 
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If Hillary runs and I suspect she will, given 19 states blue since 1988 plus Va and NM starting her around 260 ev, the GOP should not waste a legit candidate in 2016, and use these next 6 years to retool positions to improve their results amongst Hispanics and single women.

Now if she has very low poll numbers in say 2018 and if the GOP potential nominess starts seeing terrific numbers, the time would be right for a mainstream Repub like Jeb Bush or hopefully a born again honest for 6 years Chris Christie to mount a 2020 challenge.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Who the hell is she? I'm not a political junkie, but do follow politics semi-regularly and I've never heard of her. Without knowing anything about her, I'd say brand recognition is her biggest problem.
Susanna Martinez is the current governor of New Mexico.
She is running for re-election this year.

An interesting bit of news from yesterday:

New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush to meet Tuesday in Farmington - Farmington Daily Times
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Old 03-25-2014, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Who the hell is she? I'm not a political junkie, but do follow politics semi-regularly and I've never heard of her. Without knowing anything about her, I'd say brand recognition is her biggest problem.
yes, name recognition is a huge selling point or draw back. She is the governor of NM, is Hispanic and very conservative or certainly conservative. Let's say that. She is also, from everything I have read and people I have spoken with very popular. She is attractive (more cute than gorgeous) personable and bright. I could see her more as a running mate at this stage. 䦧
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Old 03-25-2014, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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If Hillary runs and I suspect she will, given 19 states blue since 1988 plus Va and NM starting her around 260 ev, the GOP should not waste a legit candidate in 2016, and use these next 6 years to retool positions to improve their results amongst Hispanics and single women.

Now if she has very low poll numbers in say 2018 and if the GOP potential nominess starts seeing terrific numbers, the time would be right for a mainstream Repub like Jeb Bush or hopefully a born again honest for 6 years Chris Christie to mount a 2020 challenge.
lots of ifs there, wouldn't you say? so you think the Republicans should just sit back and not fight for the WH? That would be the dumbest thing they can do: It is called giving up and that is not what we are about....Let's face it blue today may be red tomorrow and visa versa.
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Old 03-25-2014, 04:05 PM
 
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lots of ifs there, wouldn't you say? so you think the Republicans should just sit back and not fight for the WH? That would be the dumbest thing they can do: It is called giving up and that is not what we are about....Let's face it blue today may be red tomorrow and visa versa.
Certainly possible, but not likely considering demographic trends. Christie was (maybe still is) the Repubs best chance in 2016, but his chances seem to have diminshed.

Consider all the demographic advantages Hillary has: popular with women, Hispanics, working class older voters, the military (for a Democrat). As someone else said, she'd probably have about 250 solid Electoral votes from the onset; that's a huge margin for Republicans to overcome. All she'd need is 2-3 toss-up states.

Old, grumpy, and white just doesn't sell very well. I wonder why?
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Old 03-25-2014, 05:16 PM
 
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lots of ifs there, wouldn't you say? so you think the Republicans should just sit back and not fight for the WH? That would be the dumbest thing they can do: It is called giving up and that is not what we are about....Let's face it blue today may be red tomorrow and visa versa.
Few ifs, 19 states blue 24 years = 90% of the way for HC. The GOP needs to spend mucho time and money in those 19, with a new message conducive to winning some of them. This is a math problem.
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Old 03-25-2014, 05:37 PM
 
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Are you sure? What about the infamous "DaisyGirl" commercial from 1964.
That was one ad against nuclear war. Hardly "personal" attack and there has always been mudslinging of some sort in politics. Lee Atwater elevated the politics of personal destruction to a whole new level. Even his eulogists called him machevellian.
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Old 03-25-2014, 05:49 PM
 
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I think running a female candidate by the GOP would be a bold move.

Women tend to vote for democrats whereas men tend to vote for republicans and this might be winning strategy to capture more of the female vote. Not to mention the Latin vote.
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