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Old 01-08-2008, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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How about this-
because she is a marxist, socialist. If you think she is good for this country, perhaps it would be best if you not vote.

Please, list the good she has done. There is a reason why her college papers have been sealed until after the election.

Let's see: Whitewater, Rose law firm, just to mention a few notables.
Oh brother ... open wide, Fox is feeding you, or maybe it's NewsMax.
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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I thought it was one of the few times Hilary Clinton has seemed natural and genuine to me. But she wasn't even crying, and yeah there is a double standard.
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:36 AM
 
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Fair enough. But how can we have leaders that tear up at the sight or thought of dead bodies?

Or maybe we SHOULD? Maybe Mitt Romney would think about his OWN able bodied, strapping young sons in coffins before he rushed off to continue the Bush doctrine of pre-emptive strikes? Maybe that's a good thing?


I think Hillary IS frustrated, and its understandable. I'm frustrated as well. Imagine knowing that people are filing behind whom she might consider the least qualified person in the ENTIRE democratic field. Imagine, because of your years in politics and inside the belway, believing that he will NOT get elected, and will get torn up by the machine... handing control back to the Republicans... it makes ME want to cry, and I'm not working on 3 hours of sleep in a grueling campaign.
Hey, while I don't support Hillary, I do believe her to be an able and experienced politician. I believe her display during this moment to be genuine and sincere. I do believe that Hillary thinks she has the best plan and is most qualified to take the Presidency.

For good or bad, her emotional display will elevate her for some and seriously drop her to others. When people see a weeping or teary eyed, or even simply an emotional woman, it does not project power and strength, it does however display a traditionally stereotypical view that women are emotionally weaker, whether it is true or not.

I just think this moment hurt her politically and by the end of the day we will see how people responded at the polls.
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:41 AM
 
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From her website:

"As a law student, Hillary represented foster children and parents in family court and worked on some of the earliest studies creating legal standards for identifying and protecting abused children. Following graduation, she became a staff attorney for the Children's Defense Fund.

After serving as only one of two women lawyers on the staff of the House Judiciary Committee considering the impeachment of Richard Nixon, Hillary chose not to pursue offers from major law firms. Instead she followed her heart and a man named Bill Clinton to Arkansas.

Hillary ran a legal aid clinic for the poor when she first got to Arkansas and handled cases of foster care and child abuse. Years later, she organized a group called Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families. When she was just 30, President Carter appointed her to the board of the United States Legal Services Corporation, a federal nonprofit program that funds legal assistance for the poor.

HillaryClinton.com - Issues (http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/ - broken link)

There's more but if anyone is really interested in Hillary's record, they can actually do some research.
All fine and dandy, but how does that make her this experienced and seasoned politician I keep hearing about? So she worked for a legal aid clinic, was an attorney, and married Bill. So what?
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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She's been in the political arena for most of her adult life. She spent many years as the first lady of Arkansas too don't forget. She has political experience far more than most. She's relatively green when it comes to being elected.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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She's been in the political arena for most of her adult life. She spent many years as the first lady of Arkansas too don't forget. She has political experience far more than most. She's relatively green when it comes to being elected.
The thing about Hilary is that she uses the experience factor as an attack on Obama, when in my eyes at least they both lack experience. But lack of experience isn't necessarily a bad thing, especially in the field of politics and under the current set of circumstances.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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All fine and dandy, but how does that make her this experienced and seasoned politician I keep hearing about? So she worked for a legal aid clinic, was an attorney, and married Bill. So what?
Thank you! Sure she is smart. But trying to say she is better qualified is ridiculous. She was way too arrogant and smug in her assumptions. I see Obama as more capable on a personal level to impact people and effect change than Hillary.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:22 AM
 
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All fine and dandy, but how does that make her this experienced and seasoned politician I keep hearing about? So she worked for a legal aid clinic, was an attorney, and married Bill. So what?
She is personally known by many movers and shakers throughout the world. They respect her and her husband. Like it or not, foreign policy is THE #1 duty of a president.

She's been through the wringer in the 1990s and personally experienced the harsh reality of getting sweeping reforms passed.

She's a two-term senator who HASN'T been absent from the floor because he's spent the majority of his one term running for president.

There's a reason why they used to say Hillary ran the Clinton white house.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:52 AM
 
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She is personally known by many movers and shakers throughout the world. They respect her and her husband. Like it or not, foreign policy is THE #1 duty of a president.

She's been through the wringer in the 1990s and personally experienced the harsh reality of getting sweeping reforms passed.

She's a two-term senator who HASN'T been absent from the floor because he's spent the majority of his one term running for president.

There's a reason why they used to say Hillary ran the Clinton white house.
can you site some links on all these "movers and shakers" most of the saudi countries have little to no regard at all towards women, find it hard to believe they think Bill/Hill would be that squared away. She still looks like shes been thru the wringer tho even in this century.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Good point about the Muslim countries. I would think it would be a very strange dynamic for foreigners...heck, for anybody...to see Bill and Hillary together again but now all of a sudden Hillary is "the boss" and Bill is the ornament at her side, instead of the other way around.
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