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You call two men or two women marrying each other a cultural change and an equal rights issue? If our culture is headed in that direction then we are aren't on the right path as a Christian nation. There is no comparison to that and your scenario about how women and blacks were treated in the past. It's not the same thing at all.
Good. That means we are absolutely on the right path then.
You call two men or two women marrying each other a cultural change and an equal rights issue? If our culture is headed in that direction then we are aren't on the right path as a Christian nation. There is no comparison to that and your scenario about how women and blacks were treated in the past. It's not the same thing at all.
This is not a Christian Nation!! Stop acting like we are ISIS or something where our country functions under a religious law. Our country was never founded on being a religious country, and it will never be.
Yes because it is equal protection under the law as granted by the 14th amendment (which is why any gay marriage ban should really be living on borrowed time as it is a right as granted being a part of the United States.) Businesses do have a right to refuse service but not based on race or sex, which is why Arizona's SB 1062 never got passed last year (a bill proposing religious businesses could legally discriminate against those that don't believe in the religious beliefs of the customer, especially against LGBT and those that may support it or may not but go in wearing a rainbow shirt.)
The rights of the private businesses owners were taken illegally by government through force. No one has a right to anothers service. No matter how well intentioned. This is a moral issue for the individual. Government isn't a moral compass.
Why is government even involved in marriage?
Government is forcing states to adhere to the Constitution. Don't you like the Constitution?
Where in the Constitution does it say it's the Federal governments job to decide who is or isn't married. If you knew anything about the Constitution you'd understand states rights at a minimum.
Constitution like when women couldn't vote? Don't you like the Constitution?
Where in the Constitution does it say it's the Federal governments job to decide who is or isn't married. If you knew anything about the Constitution you'd understand states rights at a minimum.
Constitution like when women couldn't vote? Don't you like the Constitution?
Look up the meaning of Fundamental Right and why the Constitution doesn't need to list everything for something to be a right. Plus the benefit of the Constitution is that it has the ability to be changed as society changes.
The rights of the private businesses owners were taken illegally by government through force. No one has a right to anothers service. No matter how well intentioned. This is a moral issue for the individual. Government isn't a moral compass.
Why is government even involved in marriage?
Should private businesses be allowed to discriminate against black people?
As for government involvement in marriage... irrelevant. What IS relevant is the equal protection clause. Sorry, y'all don't get to make laws against people just because you hate them. Such laws against black people were overturned, and such laws against gay people will be likewise.
And it's gonna be fun watching all y'all bigots wail about it
I think the US is a Christian nation in that we were found upon a mix of puritanical and Protestant ideals as well as some Catholics and other forms of Christianity. HOWEVER we don't have a formal religion we base everything on because of ideas of philosophers during the enlightenment of the 1700's, as well as religious persecution that forced groups like the Pilgrims and the Quakers from England in the 1600's.
That said, I think that faith is no longer important to everyone. I grew up Catholic, not devout but I was confirmed. Some 15 years later, I am a Christian and have my own beliefs and don't follow those of the Catholic churches. I don't mind gays or do I think they will burn in hell (if they aren't sinners) and I think of them as equals. What makes me a straight man, better than a gay man or lesbian woman that wants to marry their life partner?
Our court system rules on property rights, so of course recognition of relationships granted such rights should run through government.
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If our culture is headed in that direction then we are aren't on the right path as a Christian nation. There is no comparison to that and your scenario about how women and blacks were treated in the past. It's not the same thing at all.
