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Old 01-13-2008, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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The CFR publishes bios and articles about ALL the candidates, members or not. What you WON'T find on their website are any articles WRITTEN by Ron Paul or Duncan Hunter.
And you see who has the to answer the question of electability.
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:44 PM
 
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You know, the first quote from David Rockefeller's book should be enough to make you realize that these people are NOT kidding around. The second quote from the Baden-Baden Bilderburg meeting in 1991 should make it clear that they've been hiding this from us for a LONG time.

I didn't make this stuff up, and to insinuate that it's all a bunch of 'tinfoil hat' conspiracy theory shows that either...
A.)you've chosen not to educate yourself to what is going on
or that
B.)you support what is going on.

My suggestion to you, if you want to be deemed as credible in this conversation, is that you address the FACTS of the OP rather than making sarcastic and denigrating comments in an attempt to belittle those very FACTS.

Think you can do that?


This person speaks the truth. I know this because I also have a plethora of fact based information and I can see.

John F Kennedy, speaking at Columbia University in 1963 said, "The high office of the president has been used to foment a plot to destroy America's freedom, and before I leave office,I must inform the citizens of their plight."
Ten days later, John F. Kennedy was assassinated.

We are being conditioned by the media for this new world order and a multitude of things that you do not realize until you stop to think about it.
How about the micro chip to keep your pet "safe" . My question is from who!
With all the new hype about the verichip , and next it is slated to peg law enforcement, touted as the end all be all of safety devices" the gun cannot go off with out the chip"..in your hand, that is. Oh and by the way it can be used to track your every move. Isn't that comforting, how about that for a thought on your honeymoon! And who do you think wants this? Do you know of a dictator that was ever a christian!?
Hitler?
It has been my experience that those who seek power over people usually do so with sad and pathetic motives, if not just plain evil or greed.

They cannot operate without a network of others to carry out their plan.
The network is usually afraid of being eaten themselves, and they must eat , so they feed it.. usually out of great fear.


The media has systematically been "feeding us" little by little,.. who pays their bills?
Anyone out there know who owns the media?!!!
Name an organization without ties to the media and the elite afformentioned!
This and that LLC. Such and Such corp. , The data group,ect...unidentifiable in nature, having a board..aaahhhh but who RUNS it!...and who OWNS it.
Or who spends the most money there!Guess what I did, I started reading the tiny teeny weeny little print inside that magazine cover to find that they were almost always the affiliate or owner of one or the other.

I have a book from more than 20 years ago, that in it states, that David Rockefeller is the OWNER OF ALMOST ALL THE OIL IN THE WESTERN WORLD...as well as having a fantastic empire.

It also states clearly the facts that you mentioned.

All it will take is one crisis in this country to instantaniously enact a law that was also signed in by Kennedy during the missile crisis. (It was 2 days before he was killed that he signed it).
It was later revised under the Nixon Administration, but still to my knowledge is in effect.It gives ,in ONE hour, the acting body during a time of ,
now get this,
"increased international tension" or "economic or financial crisis" the right of the acting body of President total dictatorial control,these decisions can be made by whatever acting president decides that we are in perilous times.
It is called Executive Order 11490.
In one hour the govt takes over;
ALL media and communications
All electric
All farms and food resources
all transportation
all citizens to be drafted into a govt work force
entire population centers to be moved
all health education and welfare
all citizens nation wide to be registered by the postmaster general
all airports and aircraft
all housing financing
all railroads, inland waterways and public storage
And designates the office of emergency planning , giving the authority to put the above order into effect.
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:50 PM
 
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Now imagine which president you want at the wheel.
It sure as heck isn't a globalist.
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:13 AM
 
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Now imagine which president you want at the wheel.
It sure as heck isn't a globalist.
Nor is it a corporatist.
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I have a great fear that our nation may not survive in a form recognizable to the men who created it. I truly doubt they would recognize it today. I've spent years reading the words of those great men, who labored tirelessly to create a system of government that was a slave to the people, as opposed to what we have today.

They spent years debating, refining and writing our Constitution in order to provide us with the knowledge necessary to survive as one free people. It pains me to see the disdain that document now receives. Our current President has been quoted as saying it is a "G-D piece of paper." Our Congress has called it "archaic" and "unworkable" in a 21st Century world. Our people can't even tell you what it says.

God said "My people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge."

George Orwell said "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

Join the rEVOLution!!
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Old 01-14-2008, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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I have a great fear that our nation may not survive in a form recognizable to the men who created it. I truly doubt they would recognize it today. I've spent years reading the words of those great men, who labored tirelessly to create a system of government that was a slave to the people, as opposed to what we have today.
Me too. I've decided to take a positive route though. Let me explain.

Our involvement in the Middle East has always been about oil and protecting Israel, our only real ally there. We need to protect the oil because the value of our dollar is heavily tied to the cost of crude since that's what it is usually priced in.

In 2002, Saddam Hussein announced that he was going to start selling Iraqi oil in Euros. Iran's oil gambit - and potential affront to the US | csmonitor.com

It may have been spite for the trouble we caused them in 1991, it may have been because of the climbing value of the euro, who knows? That signaled a major change for the Americans because that would cause immediate deflation of our currency. Think Mexican peso.

So, we all know that GWBush had plans to take out Saddam before 9/11. That became a real possibilty if they could trump up charges against Saddam to the American people. Enter the Office of Special Plans headed by Douglas Feith [sic?]. They looked over all the evidence they had. They picked and chose what they could best sell as fact to the American public and the world community. That's why when we went in in 2003, we had a true coalition of the willing. We didn't develop the plans we should have to maintain Iraqi society after the invasion and we're paying for that now. But we can't let go of the oil fields unless, wait for it...we eliminate the Federal Reserve and allow other currencies to compete giving Americans a real choice in how to spend their money.

So just yesterday, Bush is touring the middle East and thumping his chest in Iran's direction even talking about tactical nuclear strikes against them. Why? Because Iran still wants to trade their oil for the higher valued euro. Bloomberg.com: India & Pakistan

If they drop our currency for trading oil, America will be done. That's why we love the Saudis. That's why we do the things we do. But the American public can't know the real reason. So we find the one thing that does drive support for American intervention - self-preservation from terrorists.

Yes, the Council on Foreign Relations is real. They are not some clandestine group working for a global government. However, they support maintaining the same direction that we have taken for so long now. And why does it seem that the CFR candidates are winning all the primaries? Because they can't let Ron Paul ahead in the polls. The recount in New Hampshire will not change anything. Yes, it is rigged. But we are stupid as a society. We want what is best for us, without any regard as to the whole picture.

As we all know, that isn't working any more. We have a huge trade deficit with China. They have a huge surplus and are working with Iran to build refineries for the oil. The CIA's NIE was right. Iran did suspend their nuclear weapons program. Remember how they told us it was coming, but they couldn't decide on what it should say? Giving us the truth would create more tensions between our two party system, but then again so would lies. It's a catch 22. the administration is ignoring the NIE on the advice of the CFR. They have dug a hole so deep they don't know how to get out of it.

Ever hear the story that there is a huge reserve of oil in Alaska? It's true if most of what I have see is real. Why don't we tap into it? Because an isolationist approach to the rest of the world would doom them and ultimately us. If we have all the resources we need, we would become isolationist. The rest of the world would become a living cesspool. Aside from that, the environmentalists are playing the 'me first' game too. Removing those regulations to allow drilling would flood the market with American crude. Imagine that. Real dollars based on something tangible. So we don't have to be on the gold standard. We could be on the oil standard. Or the lumber standard. Why limit ourselves when we have so much potential?

Global warming? It's real. Look outside. You know it. The corporations know it. But there is no real solution under the current system. So until we get our heads out of our collectivist ass and start to explore real energy alternatives, we are dooming ourselves to a world unfit to live in. Government regulations meant to protect people from the dangers of real innovation is what stifles growth in terms of new energy reform. If you get a chance, read the book Plan B - 3.0. It shows us that if we took the WW2 approach to manufacturing, we could produce enough wind turbines off our huge coastline to create enough energy that every thing would become electric. Cars, trains, buses, etc. Still, we would need oil for flight and shipping. The storage capacity for batteries currently isn't large enough. Removing environmental and research regulations would jump start new technologies. If you want, thank Toyota for the Hybrid car. It's just the beginning.

There are tons of other conspiracy theories out there that can just as easily be debunked by thinking in terms of protection rather than stifling freedom. This is what Libertarianism is all about. Read Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand.

So why not tell the public the facts? We can't handle it. We've stopped paying attention to our economy in favor of buying crap. We don't think in long terms any more. We think solely in terms of 'me first and the gimme gimmes'. We subsidize stupidity and get it in return. That has to change.

This is why we have a REAL ID coming in to play. This is why we are not securing the borders. When our economy crashes (and it will very soon if we stay on the current course) we need to allow the borders to be open so that others can leave. Not allowing people to mooch on the system that is in place to protect Americans first is the goal. It's not that they don't care about illegal immigration. Stopping it would hurt us worse in the long run.

There's your North American government conspiracy. Debunked. Fences keep people out, but they also keep us in. And then there's the mandatory government worker program that Charlie Rangel keeps trying to pass through Congress. There is no attempt to force Americans into the armed forces. 2 years of mandatory service could put people back to work rebuilding our infrastructure and increase money in the hands of Americans and generate real tax money for the treasury.

Anyway, that's my take. It's time we petition the government to engage Iran and the Middle East in real talks for the first time in years. We need to stop the saber rattling and get a real group of ambassadors in place and figure out what to do.

For the true believers in America, there really is only one hope. Ron Paul. Any other option is just stay the course.

Now, do you want to repeat the lessons we didn't learn from the Great Depression, or do you want to usher in what is really a revolution in thinking? Let's stop beating each other up. There's a real chance that we don't even know WHY we disagree. We all want the same thing. A prosperous and strong America. And that would give hope to the world.

of course, I could be wrong.

RonPaulIsWrong.com: Why Ron Paul Is Right <- Common Sense 2.0 - Self evident truths.
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Old 01-14-2008, 02:47 PM
 
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Hosea 4;6
"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.."

The Bible revealed the plans and agendas of these men through the miracle of Bible prophesy 2600 years ago in the book of Daniel. And over 2000 years ago in the book of Revelation.
Daniel 2 Daniel 7 Revelations 13.

Ron Paul did not vote for the globalist agenda, he voted for America on all these issues that would be the destruction of our country as we know it.
The agenda however, continues, at the hands of those on the other side of it.
This will take our country to an economic crisis, by design ,afterwhich I believe , a "new" currency will be attempted ,
I just found out that there are bar codes on my EGGS!!!!!

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN THAT!!!
I bought them at a large grocery store, Giant to be exact, and each individual egg has a code marked on it!!!!!

I then talked to my neighbor and she told me she is being forced to put the microchip in all of her chickens!!!!
She only has a few, !! Let me guess, the excuse is ecoli, right?
(remember alll those reports on the news!)
I thought she was crazy, so I talked to another farmer, he told me "yea, they said I have to put it in my cows too,and the horses ." !!!! When I asked him why, all he said was that it was "some new law".!!!!!

Ron Paul is not the one that voted for any of this. NOR WOULD HE.
Not from where I stand,
and I can prove it by looking up the record.
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Old 01-14-2008, 02:59 PM
 
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Hosea 4;6
"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.."

The Bible revealed the plans and agendas of these men through the miracle of Bible prophesy 2600 years ago in the book of Daniel. And over 2000 years ago in the book of Revelation.
Daniel 2 Daniel 7 Revelations 13.

Ron Paul did not vote for the globalist agenda, he voted for America on all these issues that would be the destruction of our country as we know it.
The agenda however, continues, at the hands of those on the other side of it.
This will take our country to an economic crisis, by design ,afterwhich I believe , a "new" currency will be attempted ,
I just found out that there are bar codes on my EGGS!!!!!

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN THAT!!!
I bought them at a large grocery store, Giant to be exact, and each individual egg has a code marked on it!!!!!

I then talked to my neighbor and she told me she is being forced to put the microchip in all of her chickens!!!!
She only has a few, !! Let me guess, the excuse is ecoli, right?
(remember alll those reports on the news!)
I thought she was crazy, so I talked to another farmer, he told me "yea, they said I have to put it in my cows too,and the horses ." !!!! When I asked him why, all he said was that it was "some new law".!!!!!

Ron Paul is not the one that voted for any of this. NOR WOULD HE.
Not from where I stand,
and I can prove it by looking up the record.
I just also found out that a company called Somark Innovations has an RFID tattoo, an embed ,into the body, and they are vying for the government contract to start with the military.
Don't believe me? type RFID TATTOO in your search bar and see what comes up!!!
I also found out that the tattoo is to be used on food too!!!!

RFID in clothes too.
It would be recorded with the microchip for everytime a transaction is made it is used for currency. These can be programmed and emmbedded, the core number is ...guess?
And , it has the propensity to replace the verichip because it is cheaper.
Ron Paul never voted for this.
He never voted for nafta either.
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Old 01-14-2008, 03:00 PM
 
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Please do not vote for a globalist!!!
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Old 01-14-2008, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Years ago, Ron Paul put out newsletters, such as the Freedom Report, with articles supporting the religious right agenda. Other articles revealed his bigotry against blacks, Jews, and gays. Until I know he now disowns such viewpoints, I can not seriously support him as a presidential candidate.
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