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Old 03-26-2015, 03:01 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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As a left leaning progressive (and no, that does not mean marxist, socialist or commie!), I knew very little about Cruz before this week.

He has a very impressive academic and legal resume, no doubt about that.

BUT, having watched some of his speeches, I would never have guessed his academic background.
He comes off as a ramble rousing preacher. Perhaps he feels the need to dumb down to the crowd?

He either has no intension of winning the nomination and election, OR, he has zero political smarts.

-The whole shutting down the government example makes him unelectable.
LOL! As though Ted Cruz did this all on his own, and Democrat's unwillingness to compromise had nothing to do with it! It was actually Democrats that caused the shut-down (which really wasn't a shut-down).
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-Not distancing himself from the birther wing of the Tea Party is ironically stupid.

-Leaving Texas to announce at the Jerry Falwell College for Rightwing Nuttery is political suicide.

-Forcing people to attend his announcement. Really? He thought no one would find out?

-Fighting ACA but then announcing he is signing up is worse than Romney's remark about the "47%".

-And he is obviously bad at math if he thinks a Texas Tea Bagger can win a national election!

Given the above, my assumption is that he jumped in early while the media is hungry for election news,
and he will be out early. His only goal was to make a national name for himself which will help with
future book royalties and speaking fees. Too bad he couldn't at least be honest about it.
The rest of your post is also utter nonsense. Not worthy of a response.
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Old 03-26-2015, 03:08 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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First, he hardly "rambles" since he can give speeches without a teleprompter, and in a National Champion Debater and Runner Up World Champion Debater. Your characterization of him as a "ramble rousing preacher" whatever that is, seems to belie your reliance on MSM for your opinions. If you voted for Obama, I'm surprised you don't love the "preachy" style, since Obama has admitted that he listened over and over to tapes of Rev. Wright, so he could emulate him when giving speeches.

1. He did NOT shut down the government. He fought on behalf of his constituents to defund Obamacare. His filibuster informed many people about the truth of Obamacare. The democrats were the ones who refused to sign the bill funding the government if it failed to fund their Obamacare creation.

2. Can you provide proof to that statement? I have no idea what that means. Are you saying that Cruz has admitted that he is a birther? I mean, Bill Clinton said Obama's story was a fairy tale and questioned his Constitutional eligibility to be president, but I never, ever heard Cruz make that accusation. I look forward to your proof.

3. Did he leave Texas? What does that mean? He leaves Texas all the time to go to DC. Any Presidential candidate is going to leave their state when they campaign. What is the difference between Cruz announcing at Liberty U or Clinton speaking at religious colleges?

4. LU requires students to attend a daily assembly. Cruz made his announcement at the daily assembly. HE did not require or force anyone to attend. That is school policy. You don't think all the little kids that sit around Obama when he gives speeches in grade schools are not required to attend them?

5. Fighting for Obamacare and then following the law, is neither contradictory, nor hypocritical. If a State Senator fights to remove the speed limit on certain roadways, do you think he is hypocritical if he obeys the current law?
It's a waste of time arguing with these people. They aren't offering anything but red herrings and clichés. Their purpose isn't to present a rebuttal or offer alternative points of view (have you seen even one?) but only to smear, marginalize, and name call. To them, Republicans of any stripe are stupid. Period. We aren't going to change their minds. They are liberals ("Progressives," who are Marxist/socialists - and that's a fact, whether they deny it or not).
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Old 03-26-2015, 03:13 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Texas is not the country. That's like saying that Sarah Palin could win the presidency because Alaskans voted for her for governor.
Another logical fallacy.

Cruz appeals to a wide swath of conservatives. He must seem like a huge threat to Leftists because they are sure spending a lot of time trying to destroy him. I predict that the harder they try, the more popular he will become. This is because it helps to shine the light of truth on who they are.
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Old 03-26-2015, 03:17 PM
 
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I mean, Bill Clinton said Obama's story was a fairy tale and questioned his Constitutional eligibility to be president,.....
clinton never questioned obama's eligibility.
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Old 03-26-2015, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Another logical fallacy.

Cruz appeals to a wide swath of conservatives. He must seem like a huge threat to Leftists because they are sure spending a lot of time trying to destroy him. I predict that the harder they try, the more popular he will become. This is because it helps to shine the light of truth on who they are.

I don't think Cruz is going to be a serious threat unless the Dems nominate a buffoon. His militant right wing narrative won't sell outside the bible belt. I don't think the guy is dumb, just too extreme. And that should show how far the GOP base has pulled away from the rest of the country.
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Old 03-26-2015, 03:20 PM
 
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For the right wingers today, it does seem to be the qualifications. What did Obama do during his Senate term to justify being a president? And once you answer that question, you can then try to answer what one term Senator, Rafael Cruz did during his one term as Senator.

It is only fair that right wingers stay consistent with all candidates so they don't look like hypocrites.

Why do you and other lefties insist on calling Ted Cruz by his father's name? Rafael Cruz is not running for the Presidency, his son Ted is.

It is not what Cruz or Obama did/does in the Senate, it has to do with everything they accomplished before that.

Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Obama] was a community organizer in Chicago before earning his law degree. He worked as a civil rights attorney and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. He served three terms representing the 13th District in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004, running unsuccessfully for the United States House of Representatives in 2000.


Between 1999 and 2003, Cruz served as the director of the Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission, an associate deputy attorney general at the United States Department of Justice, and as domestic policy advisor to U.S. President George W. Bush on the 2000 Bush-Cheney campaign. He served as Solicitor General of Texas from 2003 to May 2008, after being appointed by Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott. He was the first Hispanic, the youngest and the longest-serving solicitor general in Texas history. Cruz was also an adjunct professor of law at the University of Texas School of Law in Austin, from 2004 to 2009. While there, he taught U.S. Supreme Court litigation.

Ted Cruz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-26-2015, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Another logical fallacy.

Cruz appeals to a wide swath of conservatives. He must seem like a huge threat to Leftists because they are sure spending a lot of time trying to destroy him. I predict that the harder they try, the more popular he will become. This is because it helps to shine the light of truth on who they are.
You can't win elections appealing to far right wingers, but please pick him as your candidate, it would make the general election even more funny watching the Republicans get crushed.
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Old 03-26-2015, 03:23 PM
 
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clinton never questioned obama's eligibility.

No, he stated in an interview that anyone could run for office if they were "Constitutionally" eligible.

It was Hillary's campaign plan to make Obama out to be "UnAmerican"

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Old 03-26-2015, 03:24 PM
 
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You can't win elections appealing to far right wingers, but please pick him as your candidate, it would make the general election even more funny watching the Republicans get crushed.

Funny, his election to the US Senate was supported by all kinds of voters, including independents and "Reagan" democrats.
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Old 03-26-2015, 03:26 PM
 
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Why do you and other lefties insist on calling Ted Cruz by his father's name? Rafael Cruz is not running for the Presidency, his son Ted is.
Ted Cruz's real name is Rafael Edward Cruz. For some reason, he doesn't like to use his first name. Maybe he's afraid having a Cuban name will scare off the xenophobic Tea Partiers that comprise his base?
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