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Old 04-01-2015, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Gone
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LOL, try checking Mr. Green Eggs and Ham on Fact Check and see the baggage he has, not to mention his shutting down of the Federal Government. The guy does not stand a snow balls chance in Hades of getting the GOP nomination not to mention ever being elected to the Whitehouse. The Far Right can dream for a while longer but in the end they will be stuck with supporting another RINO or staying home and getting drunk.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:18 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The IRS and the Federal Reserve, are the two most damaging ACTS, to the freedom and liberty of the people of the US.

It turned the wording of the Constitution from We the People to We the government will put this boot on your throat when ever we wish, peasant.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:26 PM
 
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You are aware Rafael Cruz's filibuster didn't actually do anything to stop or slow down ACA from starting, it just hurt other Americans when he caused a government shutdown. While that shutdown was going on, people still had to enroll in a very active ACA.

So much for that filibuster Rafael the Communist Cruz.
You mean people were still TRYING to enroll on an unsafe, fiasco of a website. Most of the ACA numbers are actually Medicaid, which can't afford to support the numbers.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:33 PM
 
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So it is your contention that a politician should be able to squander billions and billions of taxpayer dollars to make a point? And that, to you, is a good use of your money?

This is why the term "fiscal conservative" is such a joke.
Talk to me when the Democrats don't support using a filibuster.

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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said on Tuesday that he's perfectly comfortable living with the carnage of the filibuster should he eventually find himself in the minority.
Reid On Living Without The Filibuster While In The Minority: Bring It On
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:37 PM
 
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Cruz didn't but nice spi n. The fact is that two term presidents always have congress turned against them by the second midterm election. That and Democrat turn out the vote isn't as strong for midterms. If it was a presidential year, you have a point. 2014 was a midterm so you using correlation to create causation. Could that have been a reason, sure. However it isn't THE reason.

And the ACA has even been gaining support since then, debunked.
If the ACA has been such a marvelous working plan, O's signature achievement, the Republicans wouldn't have won. And they did win, pledging to defund Obamacare. Ted Cruz stuck to his promise.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:47 PM
 
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LOL, try checking Mr. Green Eggs and Ham on Fact Check and see the baggage he has, not to mention his shutting down of the Federal Government. The guy does not stand a snow balls chance in Hades of getting the GOP nomination not to mention ever being elected to the Whitehouse. The Far Right can dream for a while longer but in the end they will be stuck with supporting another RINO or staying home and getting drunk.
The government doesn't "shut down". The Treasury always pays its interest payments. If we didn't, it would alarm the financial markets, and we aren't going to do that. Every essential agency stays open.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:48 PM
 
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If the ACA has been such a marvelous working plan, O's signature achievement, the Republicans wouldn't have won. And they did win, pledging to defund Obamacare. Ted Cruz stuck to his promise.
Actually, the real referendum on Obamacare was the 2012 election, when the guy for whom it is named was actually on the ballot. And Americans overwhelmingly reelected him.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:52 PM
 
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Actually, the real referendum on Obamacare was the 2012 election, when the guy for whom it is named was actually on the ballot. And Americans overwhelmingly reelected him.
Only because the GOP produced ORomney. Every talking point on Fox was geared toward an ORomney nomination. They got their comeuppance in the loss.

We are in a Constitutional crises in our country. While Obama seeks to destroy that, ORomney would have coasted along not fixing much. Both trains reach the same destination - over a cliff. Why vote for the slow train?
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Nope. There are religious Conservatives and there are religious Progressives & Commies.
Then we have Non-religious Conservatives and we have Non-religious Progressives.


We have the conserve and preserve the Constitution v. We have to progressively find a way around the Constitution.


There is no middle ground when compromising the US Constitution. It is still the Constitution that chains down the government. Compromise on that and you compromise our Liberty and freedoms, giving it to government to control.
So it is just conservative vs progressive to you. The world isn't as black and white as you think it is "my friend.". Libertarians aren't exactly conservative especially religiously and libertarians are not just a tent for fiscal conservatism like say a Barry Goldwater or Ted Cruz or laizee fare economics like say David Koch but rather social libertarians like say Rand Paul (though he is fiscal too.)

Like Transformers, there's more than meets the eye. The sooner you realize that " my friend," the better. If not, you are lost.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:54 PM
 
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So it is just conservative vs progressive to you. The world isn't as black and white as you think it is "my friend.". Libertarians aren't exactly conservative especially religiously and libertarians are not just a tent for fiscal conservatism like say a Barry Goldwater or Ted Cruz or laizee fare economics like say David Koch but rather social libertarians like say Rand Paul (though he is fiscal too.)

Like Transformers, there's more than meets the eye. The sooner you realize that " my friend," the better. If not, you are lost.
Every faction has a liberal, moderate and conservative following, even the Libertarians.
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