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Old 03-26-2015, 01:29 PM
 
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I don't think anybody doubts Cruz can draw a Tea Party crowd. His problem is that he wants to be president of all Americans, not just the 8% who identify as the Tea Party.

Which is exactly how he won the primary and general elections in Texas. With a coalition of Tea Party members, Reagan Democrats, and Independent who wanted an honest representative in DC upholding his oath to defend and protect the Constitution.
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Old 03-26-2015, 01:29 PM
 
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97 Sponsored (authored)- including one related to preventing an Iranian that was involved in the 1979 hostage takeover from entering this country. That one was signed into law by Obama.

177 Co-sponsored
I tell you what, instead of worrying over a Mark Twain quote, why don't you address my posting, on the previous page, concerning this wonderful Act of Congress cited by both you and Bentbow as being one of the heights of Rafael Edward Cruz's achievements while a Senator? Seems like my reply to Bentbow is being ignored (and you even posted after me, citing said Act).
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Old 03-26-2015, 01:35 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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What bills in Congress has Cruz authored?
Oh, is that some new criterion for qualification to run for President?

Reagan, clearly our greatest President in modern American history, was not a Congressman or Senator (though he had been Governor of California).
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Old 03-26-2015, 01:36 PM
 
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Ted Cruz' father is not a communist!

Are you not aware that Barack Obama was raised by a communist mother and father and was mentored by famed communist, Frank Marshall Davis?

So, while you are throwing stones at Ted Cruz, claiming (falsely) that his father was a communist, you support Barack Obama, a "Progressive," raised and mentored by communists, and as a "Progressive" is a Marxist/socialist! That's what "Progressives" are.

You are really out of touch with reality.
I don't think what one's parents believed or did has any bearing on his/her suitability for the presidency, but it IS true that Cruz's father fought on the same side as Fidel Castro in the Cuban revolution before fleeing the country and Fidel Castro embraced communism. Cruz has said so himself. IMO it's not a big deal--a lot of idealistic people were communists in that era. But you do yourself and your beloved Ted Cruz a disservice when you steadfastly refuse to acknowledge anything that might be construed as negative about him.
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Old 03-26-2015, 01:38 PM
 
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Now, that's a new one. Never heard that claim before.

Funny that you say, "birthers believe the stupidest things," when you have been peddling "birther" nonsense about Ted Cruz, claiming he was born in Cuba. Or am I mistaken? I know some of you "Curz birthers" have said that.
Nope, it wasn't me. I know Cruz is eligible. Even though he was born in Canada, he is a natural born American citizen through his mother. Just like Obama is.
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Old 03-26-2015, 01:41 PM
 
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Which is exactly how he won the primary and general elections in Texas. With a coalition of Tea Party members, Reagan Democrats, and Independent who wanted an honest representative in DC upholding his oath to defend and protect the Constitution.
Texas is not the country. That's like saying that Sarah Palin could win the presidency because Alaskans voted for her for governor.
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Old 03-26-2015, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Oh, is that some new criterion for qualification to run for President?

Reagan, clearly our greatest President in modern American history, was not a Congressman or Senator (though he had been Governor of California).
For the right wingers today, it does seem to be the qualifications. What did Obama do during his Senate term to justify being a president? And once you answer that question, you can then try to answer what one term Senator, Rafael Cruz did during his one term as Senator.

It is only fair that right wingers stay consistent with all candidates so they don't look like hypocrites.
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Old 03-26-2015, 02:05 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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i guess it was the one place that cruz was guaranteed a "crowd" of more than 6 people.
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i don't think anybody doubts cruz can draw a tea party crowd. His problem is that he wants to be president of all americans, not just the 8% who identify as the tea party.


lol.
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Old 03-26-2015, 02:51 PM
 
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As a left leaning progressive (and no, that does not mean marxist, socialist or commie!), I knew very little about Cruz before this week.

He has a very impressive academic and legal resume, no doubt about that.

BUT, having watched some of his speeches, I would never have guessed his academic background.
He comes off as a ramble rousing preacher. Perhaps he feels the need to dumb down to the crowd?

He either has no intension of winning the nomination and election, OR, he has zero political smarts.

1.-The whole shutting down the government example makes him unelectable.

2.-Not distancing himself from the birther wing of the Tea Party is ironically stupid.

3.-Leaving Texas to announce at the Jerry Falwell College for Rightwing Nuttery is political suicide.

4.-Forcing people to attend his announcement. Really? He thought no one would find out?

5.-Fighting ACA but then announcing he is signing up is worse than Romney's remark about the "47%".

6.-And he is obviously bad at math if he thinks a Texas Tea Bagger can win a national election!

Given the above, my assumption is that he jumped in early while the media is hungry for election news,
and he will be out early. His only goal was to make a national name for himself which will help with
future book royalties and speaking fees. Too bad he couldn't at least be honest about it.
First, he hardly "rambles" since he can give speeches without a teleprompter, and in a National Champion Debater and Runner Up World Champion Debater. Your characterization of him as a "ramble rousing preacher" whatever that is, seems to belie your reliance on MSM for your opinions. If you voted for Obama, I'm surprised you don't love the "preachy" style, since Obama has admitted that he listened over and over to tapes of Rev. Wright, so he could emulate him when giving speeches.

1. He did NOT shut down the government. He fought on behalf of his constituents to defund Obamacare. His filibuster informed many people about the truth of Obamacare. The democrats were the ones who refused to sign the bill funding the government if it failed to fund their Obamacare creation.

2. Can you provide proof to that statement? I have no idea what that means. Are you saying that Cruz has admitted that he is a birther? I mean, Bill Clinton said Obama's story was a fairy tale and questioned his Constitutional eligibility to be president, but I never, ever heard Cruz make that accusation. I look forward to your proof.

3. Did he leave Texas? What does that mean? He leaves Texas all the time to go to DC. Any Presidential candidate is going to leave their state when they campaign. What is the difference between Cruz announcing at Liberty U or Clinton speaking at religious colleges?

4. LU requires students to attend a daily assembly. Cruz made his announcement at the daily assembly. HE did not require or force anyone to attend. That is school policy. You don't think all the little kids that sit around Obama when he gives speeches in grade schools are not required to attend them?

5. Fighting for Obamacare and then following the law, is neither contradictory, nor hypocritical. If a State Senator fights to remove the speed limit on certain roadways, do you think he is hypocritical if he obeys the current law?
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Old 03-26-2015, 02:55 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I don't think anybody doubts Cruz can draw a Tea Party crowd. His problem is that he wants to be president of all Americans, not just the 8% who identify as the Tea Party.
If you think that someone like Ted Cruz only appeals to so-called 'Tea Party' conservatives, you are very mistaken. To a very large extent, he is very Reaganesque. But liberals never thought Reagan could win either.

But, are you trying to say that anyone who supports and defends the Constitution has no chance? Because that is what Ted Cruz is all about. He is a "restoration" candidate, and that's what we need.

I think people like you are hard at work trying to marginalize the 'Tea Party' (which isn't a Party) to your own detriment. But go right ahead.

You ignore the number of 'Tea Party' backed candidates that won their races last November. They won because they appealed to conservatives of all stripes. And most conservatives would rather elect a 'Tea Party' backed candidate than an "establishment Republican." Jeb Bush is going to have that problem. Almost nobody wants him except "establishment Republicans."
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