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Old 04-13-2015, 01:17 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The GOP can't suddenly prop up a "minority" just because an election year is approaching, to try to trick the American public into thinking that they are suddenly not the party of Dixie? It doesn't work like this. They made a colossal mistake by not completely reinventing their ideology away from its bigoted/racist foundation and base after Bush left office. Instead they became even MORE so, as their treatment of our great President Obama and their actions demonstrate. They are toast.
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Old 04-13-2015, 01:21 AM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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The last time the Democrats have won back to back Presidencies was in 1944. You think they are going to start now and with a woman? LOL, please. America spoke loudly last year when they ousted Democrats and replaced them with Republicans in both the house and the senate. Obama has ruined it for Democrats in 2016 the same way the last Bush ruined any hopes Jeb has of winning anything in 2016. Hillary will never get the majority Latino vote she needs to win, especially if she is up against Cruz or Rubio, two men of Hispanic descent regardless of their party. Latinos don't care weather there is a D or an R next to the Latino name, they are voting for them. Especially if the competition is a white woman.
If you sincerely believe the midterms are any indicator of a general election, then you're clearly misguided. Apples to oranges. People said the same arguments before 2012, and Obama handed them their arse, and put the baby to bed by 11:15.
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Old 04-13-2015, 01:22 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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Hillary will never get the majority Latino vote she needs to win, especially if she is up against Cruz or Rubio, two men of Hispanic descent regardless of their party. Latinos don't care weather there is a D or an R next to the Latino name, they are voting for them. Especially if the competition is a white woman.
Cruz and Rubio are Cubans. That may help with the Miami vote but it counts for little in getting the Mexican-American vote.
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Old 04-13-2015, 01:25 AM
 
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Cruz and Rubio are Cubans. That may help with the Miami vote but it counts for little in getting the Mexican-American vote.
This is a very important point to make. Republicans think a Latin is a Latin. Absolutely not true.

If they are espousing it here, that only shows how out of touch they are, and pretty much proves the OP's point.
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Old 04-13-2015, 01:26 AM
 
Location: O.C.
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If you sincerely believe the midterms are any indicator of a general election, then you're clearly misguided. Apples to oranges. People said the same arguments before 2012, and Obama handed them their arse, and put the baby to bed by 11:15.
Thats because Obama was going up against a joke of a candidate. Rubio will give the Democrats a big scare if he's the competition and could very well win going away. I know and AA finally got in the White House but a woman is another story. Especially when she has gays and lesbians in her ad announcing she's running. Extremely stupid thing to do. There are plenty of Democrats who don't support gay marriage let alone Republicans. Terrible start.
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Old 04-13-2015, 01:28 AM
 
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Cruz and Rubio are Cubans. That may help with the Miami vote but it counts for little in getting the Mexican-American vote.
Again, you are nuts if you think most Latino voters are going to vote for a white woman over a Latino man.
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Old 04-13-2015, 01:28 AM
 
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Yes, but you're still stuck on the notion that the midterms are some sort of barometer for the general election. They are absolutely not. Time and time again I read Republicans make this claim, and it's always wrong.

It's not an indicator at all. The demographics/turnouts for the mid terms and general elections are completely different.
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Old 04-13-2015, 01:39 AM
 
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Again, you are nuts if you think most Latino voters are going to vote for a white woman over a Latino man.
And you are narrow minded if you think so little of Latinos and believe they are simpletons who will vote primarily on a macho Latino man metric - and nuts if you think Cruz is that macho man. Cruz won't make a dent in California and Democrats will and do dominate in my latino Texas town.
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Old 04-13-2015, 01:46 AM
 
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And you are nuts if you think so little of Latinos and believe they are simpletons who will vote primarily on a macho Latino man metric - and think Cruz is that macho man. Cruz won't make a dent in California and Democrats will and do dominate in my latino Texas town.
Seriously? LOL. Cruz is from Texas and Rubio is from FL. Then lets look at the senate. The largest Hispanic delegation comes from the state of California, with 10 members, all of whom are representatives. Texas has the second-highest number of Latino members of Congress, with seven -- six representatives, and one senator. Hmmmm...California, Texas and Florida are also the 3 states with the most Latinos. Tell me again how most Latino voters don't blindly vote for other Latinos again
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Old 04-13-2015, 01:55 AM
 
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Seriously? LOL. Cruz is from Texas and Rubio is from FL. Then lets look at the senate. The largest Hispanic delegation comes from the state of California, with 10 members, all of whom are representatives. Texas has the second-highest number of Latino members of Congress, with seven -- six representatives, and one senator. Hmmmm...California, Texas and Florida are also the 3 states with the most Latinos. Tell me again how most Latino voters don't blindly vote for other Latinos again
So using your logic I guess that means all white people will vote for Hillary then, if she is running against Rubio or Cruz.
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