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The Democratic Party is a centrist organization. If it has moved left, it simply reflects the fact that Americans are becoming more liberal as a whole. Bernie Sanders is running as a Democrat, but he is a all-out populist the likes of which we haven't seen in many a day, and he echoes public sentiment.
Several of us have been saying on here for years that the GOP needs to address the issue of why they aren't attracting more members than they are. This means that they need to directly address the concerns of women, ethnic groups, and youth, particularly students who are up to their eyeballs in debt to get an education for a job that doesn't exist. They also need to lose the religious pandering and get rid of Citizens United. If the GOP considers it a leftist viewpoint to take care of the needs of the average citizen and rebuild the Middle Class they are going to continue to have a rough row to hoe. Barring the unforeseen there will be a Democrat in the White house for at least the next eight years.
Democrats have been moving further to the left ever since LBJ. They're practically communist in their thinking and ideology. Today's crop of people running for the Democratic ticket are not any more right or center than JFK was, and Obama is the most extremist leftist we've ever had in office to this point. There are no real centrists because, frankly, that mentality is not there.
See below. Obama is not the most 'extremist leftist' we've ever had in office.
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Originally Posted by TheWiseWino
"Why is the Democratic Party Leaning so Far Left/Progressive?"
It is an optical illusion. When you lean so far to the right it just looks that way.
Only within the right-wing echo-chamber would either Obama or Hillary be considered "far-left".
Both are center-right corporatists who happen to be a little less heinous than their Republican competition. The fact that this is considered "far left" just shows how insanely far RIGHT our country is right now.
Both are also big interventionists abroad, and are intent on using taxpayer money to bail out their corporate friends. The Democrats can not be that far left if plenty of them are willing to support Hillary.
"Why is the Democratic Party Leaning so Far Left/Progressive?"
It is an optical illusion. When you lean so far to the right it just looks that way.
If you look at things realistically, you can see where the Democrats have changed their policies to be more and more liberal as time goes by.
Example given, Obama ran on a platform opposed to Gay Marriage- now he is the biggest cheerleader.
It was just in recent years that the Democrats established a nationalized health care scheme, never did that in the past.
The Democratic led NLRB has approved "ambush elections" for union representation, making it a lot easier for a union to gain representation in a work place, and has even suggested compulsory arbitration for 1st union contracts so the unions can start pressing for mandatory dues more quickly instead of working it out through bargaining, lockouts and strikes.
Yes, the Democrats have definitively moved sharply to the left since the dawn of the Obama era.
If you look at things realistically, you can see where the Democrats have changed their policies to be more and more liberal as time goes by.
Example given, Obama ran on a platform opposed to Gay Marriage- now he is the biggest cheerleader.
It was just in recent years that the Democrats established a nationalized health care scheme, never did that in the past.
The Democratic led NLRB has approved "ambush elections" for union representation, making it a lot easier for a union to gain representation in a work place, and has even suggested compulsory arbitration for 1st union contracts so the unions can start pressing for mandatory dues more quickly instead of working it out through bargaining, lockouts and strikes.
Yes, the Democrats have definitively moved sharply to the left since the dawn of the Obama era.
Gay marriage isn't a left or right issue. It's a constitutional issue and banning gay marriage is unconstitutional.
Democrats implemented a conservative alternative to single payer healthcare. We still don't have a public option, we still don't allow Medicare to negotiate drugs, we still have uninsured individuals, we still have private companies providing coverage and private parties delivering healthcare. Sorry, that is hardly leftist.
Don't know too much under the last point so I can't comment on that.
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Originally Posted by Trace21230
An extremist leftist like yourself would think that. We aren't surprised.
Says the straight ticket conservative. Party over reality is the conservative way!!!!
Today's crop of people running for the Democratic ticket are not any more right or center than JFK was
And if JFK was alive today & ran on the same principles as he did in 1960, he would be considered a conservative. He and Reagan actually had similar policies & viewpoints.
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Originally Posted by Stizzel
Democrats implemented a conservative alternative to single payer healthcare. We still don't have a public option, we still don't allow Medicare to negotiate drugs, we still have uninsured individuals, we still have private companies providing coverage and private parties delivering healthcare. Sorry, that is hardly leftist.
Obamacare is estimated to cost over $1.2 trillion by 2025, which is hardly a conservative figure. Maybe the concept of it isn't entirely leftist, but the price tag is. The Affordable Care Act isn't affordable!
The economy tanked and he was poised to become the first black candidate. 2008, and 2012 to a lesser degree, were all about identity politics, not the real issues.
Remember how Mitt Romney was framed as an old, white, out-of-touch 1%er? Is Hillary not the same thing?
Yep, Hillary is an old white out of touch 1%er. It will be interesting to see the left's attacks on her wealth, or not, she's gonna promise to give them free stuff so being old, white, out of touch 1% is fine with them.
And if JFK was alive today & ran on the same principles as he did in 1960, he would be considered a conservative. He and Reagan actually had similar policies & viewpoints.
Obamacare is estimated to cost over $1.2 trillion by 2025, which is hardly a conservative figure. Maybe the concept of it isn't entirely leftist, but the price tag is. The Affordable Care Act isn't affordable!
The ACA is still expensive because medical costs are still expensive. Allow the govt to negotiate prices like every other first world countries. We could start by allowing Medicare to negotiate for drug prices.
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