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Old 01-13-2016, 11:35 AM
 
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I have trouble understanding why anyone would vote for her. When you take a close look, it is pretty easy to see that she is dishonest to her core. Is that the best The Democrats feel they can do? While I am politically the polar opposite of Bernie, at least he appears to be a man of principle. You can't say the same for Hillary.
I agree 100%.

Even if only half of the concerns in this article are true....

Hillary Clinton's Coming Legal Crisis | RealClearPolitics

How could any objective thinking person vote for her?
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Old 01-13-2016, 12:09 PM
 
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I agree 100%.

Even if only half of the concerns in this article are true....

Hillary Clinton's Coming Legal Crisis | RealClearPolitics

How could any objective thinking person vote for her?
Believe me I've asked myself and others that question as well.

Besides just that what's within the article, the current "R" non-GOPe candidate making his case more and more people are waking up and it's costing Hillary as her popularity is sinking according to today's news.
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Old 01-13-2016, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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Look, except for the most brain dead, useful idiot faction of the Democratic party, we all know that she is a totally unqualified and uncompelling candidate with no tangible accomplishment to show after being hand picked and walked in to both a Senate seat (as a carpet bagger!) and a cabinet post.

Why are you voting for her? The "Russian reset?" Yeah, that worked out. Libya? Another unqualified success that. Maybe you attend a library or post office that was named by a Hillary Clinton Senate bill, because that is the most important thing she accomplished there. To date, her best accomplishment is totally botching the health care bill as First... errr.. Lady...and turning America right for a generation.

She has the charisma of reptile, and not even a charming little lizard but more like a noisy pit viper. What was your favorite moment in the first campaign? Her flipping out when challenged on driver's licensees for illegals during the first debate? Her faux black accent? Her crying in New Hampshire? Her Lying about being shot at in the helicopter? Anyone remember when she said that people should vote for her because she can get the votes of "hard-working white people?" Yes, a real political genius, this one is.

The woman literally goes beyond being dishonest...its almost as if she looks at lying as a virtue, or gets off on what she can get over on America. I am not even going to get into the scandals, because they speak for themselves, except to say the best one, involving Bill's association with a child pornographer, is still out there as yet unpopped.

Instead, let us talk about how the woman has no moral compass what-so-ever on issues. She believes in post modern truth: her most profound conviction is whatever is expedient at the moment. She was before the Iraq war before she was against it. She was against gay marriage before she was for it. She was a law and order Democrat, and now she wants to let everyone out of jail that she helped put there (well, that is giving her too much credit, but you get the point). She was against driver's licenses for illegals, and now she want to go father than Obama. THIS WOMAN IS MORALLY BANKRUPT and had no rasion d'etre for running others than that she really, really wants to be president. Are you really confident that if elected, she would even be on your side? Doesn't it concern you just a bit that she has always been, in your lingo, a corporate hack?

We ALL hate Hillary whether we admit it or not (I do of course).

Now here is my point for Dems: I keep hearing the bragging about the "blue wall." You start out with a massive electoral advantage! Those of us from the caveman party will have to pull an inside straight to win this thing. You can win without Florida, or even Ohio! And demographic changes only help you over time.

You could put up a brown paper bag with a smiling face written on it and it would beat our best candidate hands down...even though it had no hands!

Why not just ditch her again? You did it once. didn't it feel great? If you really want the first woman, you could put up that Elizabeth Warren, who is totally unobjectionable other than being a borderline socialist and a fake Indian. You can have the no-holds-barred political Robin Hood stealing and spending other people's money that you really want!

For the second time, you could stick it to Hilldog and still be guaranteed the election!

Just think it over. I would like to start a movement here. This is one issue that I think deep down Dems and us caveman can agree on... ANYONE BUT HILLARY!
Hillary has an 84% favorability rating among Democrats and 48% favorability rating among all Americans. Whyever would Democrats dump somebody they like ... and the rest of the country likes as well?

Meanwhile Trump has a 57% favorability rating among Republicans and only a 35% favorability rating among all Americans. Maybe you should go back to grade school to learn about which numbers are higher than other numbers.
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Old 01-13-2016, 02:24 PM
 
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I agree 100%. Even if only half of the concerns in this article are true....
Hillary Clinton's Coming Legal Crisis | RealClearPolitics
How could any objective thinking person vote for her?
Charles Lipson called himself a democrat for years but always espoused conservative/libertarian rhetoric. In 2012 he finally started admitting he was a republican and admitted voting for Romney. He writes articles like this about Clinton every month or so; they are all rehashes of the same information, most people just ignore him in the hopes he will go away.
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Old 01-13-2016, 07:37 PM
 
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Hillary has an 84% favorability rating among Democrats and 48% favorability rating among all Americans. Whyever would Democrats dump somebody they like ... and the rest of the country likes as well?
I don't know where you have your numbers, but all these polls shows favorability all over the map, either Sanders in front, Hillary in front, or about a tie (keep scrolling down and see more polls). I don't count CBS or NBC polls as they are in the Democrat Party hip pocket. So I do not think Hillary's likability is as large as you think it is.
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Old 01-13-2016, 07:45 PM
 
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Not believing in any so-called Polls imho will set you free from the puppet string pulling MSM.

With all the lies, corruption and every other bad such about her I don't get why people still either like her or hate her and still support her - well I do really that is that imo much of society has lost it's moral, values and ethic compass.
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Old 01-13-2016, 07:53 PM
 
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Lightbulb Here's what you can do...

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Originally Posted by cachibatches View Post
Look, except for the most brain dead, useful idiot faction of the Democratic party, we all know that she is a totally unqualified and uncompelling candidate with no tangible accomplishment to show after being hand picked and walked in to both a Senate seat (as a carpet bagger!) and a cabinet post.

Why are you voting for her? The "Russian reset?" Yeah, that worked out. Libya? Another unqualified success that. Maybe you attend a library or post office that was named by a Hillary Clinton Senate bill, because that is the most important thing she accomplished there. To date, her best accomplishment is totally botching the health care bill as First... errr.. Lady...and turning America right for a generation.

She has the charisma of reptile, and not even a charming little lizard but more like a noisy pit viper. What was your favorite moment in the first campaign? Her flipping out when challenged on driver's licensees for illegals during the first debate? Her faux black accent? Her crying in New Hampshire? Her Lying about being shot at in the helicopter? Anyone remember when she said that people should vote for her because she can get the votes of "hard-working white people?" Yes, a real political genius, this one is.

The woman literally goes beyond being dishonest...its almost as if she looks at lying as a virtue, or gets off on what she can get over on America. I am not even going to get into the scandals, because they speak for themselves, except to say the best one, involving Bill's association with a child pornographer, is still out there as yet unpopped.

Instead, let us talk about how the woman has no moral compass what-so-ever on issues. She believes in post modern truth: her most profound conviction is whatever is expedient at the moment. She was before the Iraq war before she was against it. She was against gay marriage before she was for it. She was a law and order Democrat, and now she wants to let everyone out of jail that she helped put there (well, that is giving her too much credit, but you get the point). She was against driver's licenses for illegals, and now she want to go father than Obama. THIS WOMAN IS MORALLY BANKRUPT and had no rasion d'etre for running others than that she really, really wants to be president. Are you really confident that if elected, she would even be on your side? Doesn't it concern you just a bit that she has always been, in your lingo, a corporate hack?

We ALL hate Hillary whether we admit it or not (I do of course).

Now here is my point for Dems: I keep hearing the bragging about the "blue wall." You start out with a massive electoral advantage! Those of us from the caveman party will have to pull an inside straight to win this thing. You can win without Florida, or even Ohio! And demographic changes only help you over time.

You could put up a brown paper bag with a smiling face written on it and it would beat our best candidate hands down...even though it had no hands!

Why not just ditch her again? You did it once. didn't it feel great? If you really want the first woman, you could put up that Elizabeth Warren, who is totally unobjectionable other than being a borderline socialist and a fake Indian. You can have the no-holds-barred political Robin Hood stealing and spending other people's money that you really want!

For the second time, you could stick it to Hilldog and still be guaranteed the election!

Just think it over. I would like to start a movement here. This is one issue that I think deep down Dems and us caveman can agree on... ANYONE BUT HILLARY!


When your state's primary rolls around, take advantage of the opportunity to vote for Bernie.


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Old 01-13-2016, 07:59 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Semperparatus! View Post
I agree 100%.

Even if only half of the concerns in this article are true....

Hillary Clinton's Coming Legal Crisis | RealClearPolitics

How could any objective thinking person vote for her?
Fear and hatred of the fifty percent plus of Americans who disagree with Democrats. Read this forum for a bit, you'll see what I mean.
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Old 01-13-2016, 09:28 PM
 
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I don't know where you have your numbers, but all these polls shows favorability all over the map, either Sanders in front, Hillary in front, or about a tie (keep scrolling down and see more polls). I don't count CBS or NBC polls as they are in the Democrat Party hip pocket. So I do not think Hillary's likability is as large as you think it is.
In other words, you don't count polls that tell you things you don't want to hear.
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:51 PM
 
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Hillary has an 84% favorability rating among Democrats and 48% favorability rating among all Americans. Whyever would Democrats dump somebody they like ... and the rest of the country likes as well?

Meanwhile Trump has a 57% favorability rating among Republicans and only a 35% favorability rating among all Americans. Maybe you should go back to grade school to learn about which numbers are higher than other numbers.
You are quoting some kind of antiquated or perhaps completely bogus numbers. The most recent news cycles has Hillary losing in Iowa and New Hampshire to Sanders,

Iowa Democratic Presidential CaucusQuinnipiacClinton 44, Sanders 49, O'Malley 4Sanders +5
New Hampshire 2016 Democratic PrimaryMonmouthSanders 53, Clinton 39, O'Malley 5Sanders +14


and in close or losing races to every major Republican candidate inclduing Trump. Perhaps you did not see that 20% of Dems would vote for Trump:

Poll: Nearly 20 Percent of Democrats Would Vote for Trump Over Hillary


And he is just starting to build his coalition. People are running to him in droves as they realize that he can indeed win. Look for the ttidal wave to build.

Some more interesting numbers for you. Do you see how every poll, every metric, every news article shows her collapsing as people start agreeing that they do not like her?

General Election: Trump vs. ClintonFOX NewsClinton 44, Trump 47Trump +3
General Election: Cruz vs. ClintonFOX NewsCruz 50, Clinton 43Cruz +7
General Election: Rubio vs. ClintonFOX NewsRubio 50, Clinton 41Rubio +9
General Election: Bush vs. ClintonFOX NewsClinton 44, Bush 44Tie
General Election: Trump vs. ClintonRasmussen ReportsClinton 37, Trump 36Clinton +1
General Election: Trump vs. ClintonCNN/ORCClinton 49, Trump 47Clinton +2
General Election: Cruz vs. ClintonCNN/ORCCruz 48, Clinton 46Cruz +2
General Election: Rubio vs. ClintonCNN/ORCRubio 49, Clinton 46Rubio +3
General Election: Trump vs. ClintonQuinnipiacClinton 47, Trump 40Clinton +7
General Election: Cruz vs. ClintonQuinnipiacCruz 44, Clinton 44Tie
General Election: Rubio vs. ClintonQuinnipiacRubio 43, Clinton 44Clinton +1
General Election: Cruz vs. SandersQuinnipiacSanders 43, Cruz 44Cruz +1
General Election: Rubio vs. SandersQuinnipiacRubio 45, Sanders 42Rubio +3
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