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Not sure what you're going on about, it's hard to know since the first link in the list you posted actually shows Clinton +2 overall, with 4 out of 5 polls favoring Clinton, Fox being the only exception.
Perhaps you might want to check and edit your list and get back with us? Or are you saying Fox's is the only poll that counts and the other 4 don't? Alrighty then.
At any rate, every link you posted - included the bizzaro ones like "Newsmax", show Clinton to be a strong contender, within striking distance of the lead even in those polls where she's not leading. Far from providing reason to "ditch" her, you've just demonstrated that she's the Dem candidate to beat.
edit to add: Did you notice that 538.com, the most widely hailed of all political stat sites, just this week said Clinton has an 82% chance of winning the Iowa primary?
I'm not convinced, still think Bernie might end up "winning" a couple more Iowa delegates than Clinton. But if you insist on grabbing and posting polls and stats, you cannot ignore Nate Silver.
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Hillary has an 84% favorability rating among Democrats and 48% favorability rating among all Americans. Whyever would Democrats dump somebody they like ... and the rest of the country likes as well?
Meanwhile Trump has a 57% favorability rating among Republicans and only a 35% favorability rating among all Americans. Maybe you should go back to grade school to learn about which numbers are higher than other numbers.
Two problems with this theory.
Vast numbers of ex-Democrats no longer consider themselves Democrats. Of course the few who are left are going to look at Hillary favorably. They have nothing left.
As someone pointed out earlier, just because someone has an unfavorable view of a politician, doesn't mean they won't vote for them. It depends upon who they are running against. When they ask people who they will actually vote for in Trump vs Clinton, Trump wins. So case closed on that.
The grade school comment is just insult. It doesn't do anything to support your theory.
Not sure what you're going on about, it's hard to know since the first link in the list you posted actually shows Clinton +2 overall, with 4 out of 5 polls favoring Clinton, Fox being the only exception.
That RCP average means that Clinton and Trump are statically tied since everyone of those polls in that average have a minimum of a 3% margin of error.
This is quite a drop for Hilary who had a 20pt lead over Trump earlier in the year. Clearly momentum is wrong direction.
I agree that no individual poll should be considered gospel. However that FOX poll is the first to be taken after Bill Clinton's past history of sexual abuse was brought into the discussion.
Vast numbers of ex-Democrats no longer consider themselves Democrats. Of course the few who are left are going to look at Hillary favorably. They have nothing left.
As someone pointed out earlier, just because someone has an unfavorable view of a politician, doesn't mean they won't vote for them. It depends upon who they are running against. When they ask people who they will actually vote for in Trump vs Clinton, Trump wins. So case closed on that.
The grade school comment is just insult. It doesn't do anything to support your theory.
How much is "vast"? Define what constitutes "few". Like the OP all you're doing is denying numerical poll data with a lot of vague BS terms because you don't like what the polls are saying.
Actually, unlike most posters here, especially the Trumplets, most professional pollsters understand exactly what an unfavorable rating for a politician means, especially in a presidential race: voters will not vote for a candidate that they dislike. If they also don't like the alternative, they won't even bother voting, which affects voter turn-out and impacts other races. It's why so many Republicans who actually understand voting patterns and election dynamics oppose Trump's candidacy; they realize that if he's the GOP's nominee, then millions of Republicans either won't vote for him or simply won't vote.
Of course, before Trump can run for POTUS, he's got to win the Republican nomination, and that's not happened yet. My guess is that he doesn't. Too many Republicans are too intelligent to fall for his BS. Too many other Republicans are too conservative to believe Trump has really changed his politics. When he loses, the Donald will then go off to sulk or maybe try to launch a third party candidacy, taking his army of Trumplets with him, and guaranteeing that Hillary Rodham Clinton will become Madame President on January 20, 2017. I'm sure she'll send him a thank you note. Probably Bill will, too.
That is because you aren't paying attention, a common problem with liberals. Don't worry, we are here to help.
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Originally Posted by biscuitmom
it's hard to know since the first link in the list you posted actually shows Clinton +2 overall, with 4 out of 5 polls favoring Clinton, Fox being the only exception.
Perhaps you might want to check and edit your list and get back with us? Or are you saying Fox's is the only poll that counts and the other 4 don't? Alrighty then.
At any rate, every link you posted - included the bizzaro ones like "Newsmax", show Clinton to be a strong contender, within striking distance of the lead even in those polls where she's not leading. Far from providing reason to "ditch" her, you've just demonstrated that she's the Dem candidate to beat.
edit to add: Did you notice that 538.com, the most widely hailed of all political stat sites, just this week said Clinton has an 82% chance of winning the Iowa primary?
I'm not convinced, still think Bernie might end up "winning" a couple more Iowa delegates than Clinton. But if you insist on grabbing and posting polls and stats, you cannot ignore Nate Silver.
Waldo explained it so well that I am just going to post his response:
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That RCP average means that Clinton and Trump are statically tied since everyone of those polls in that average have a minimum of a 3% margin of error.
This is quite a drop for Hilary who had a 20pt lead over Trump earlier in the year. Clearly momentum is wrong direction.
I agree that no individual poll should be considered gospel. However that FOX poll is the first to be taken after Bill Clinton's past history of sexual abuse was brought into the discussion.
Now, if you can retain all of that, consider it in light of what I posted the polls to address. See how your fellow liberal wildly overestimates the differance between Trump and Clinton? You see how, as Waldo pointed out, her momentum is dropping like a rock as Trump's skyrockets?
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Hillary has an 84% favorability rating among Democrats and 48% favorability rating among all Americans. Whyever would Democrats dump somebody they like ... and the rest of the country likes as well?
Meanwhile Trump has a 57% favorability rating among Republicans and only a 35% favorability rating among all Americans. Maybe you should go back to grade school to learn about which numbers are higher than other numbers.
Not hard to understand at all...if you are paying attention.
My settings prevent me from seeing any of kitty's posts, I was addressing yours.
Please go ahead and read the following. Then place it in the blank spot. Essentially what occurred is that you claimed that you do not know what I was trying to show when I was clearly responding to Linda...you weren't paying attention. Waldo correctly points out that Hillary has had a vast decline of momentum vis a vis Trump:
That RCP average means that Clinton and Trump are statically tied since everyone of those polls in that average have a minimum of a 3% margin of error.
This is quite a drop for Hilary who had a 20pt lead over Trump earlier in the year. Clearly momentum is wrong direction.
I agree that no individual poll should be considered gospel. However that FOX poll is the first to be taken after Bill Clinton's past history of sexual abuse was brought into the discussion.
Linda posted information that is vastly out of date and wildly overestimates Hilllary.
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