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Thats not what you originally said. You said anyone who believes a sociallist wil be elected is out of touch with reality.
Do you consider Obama Carter or FDR to be socialist
You misread my posts. If Obama had campaigned on his socialist values, he would not have been elected. I consider Carter a fool and I consider FDR a pragmatist. Carter never said he wanted to redistribute the wealth when he was campaigning. There were no political agendas in FDRs time, he was just trying to save the country.
Look, except for the most brain dead, useful idiot faction of the Democratic party, we all know that she is a totally unqualified and uncompelling candidate with no tangible accomplishment to show after being hand picked and walked in to both a Senate seat (as a carpet bagger!) and a cabinet post.
Why are you voting for her? The "Russian reset?" Yeah, that worked out. Libya? Another unqualified success that. Maybe you attend a library or post office that was named by a Hillary Clinton Senate bill, because that is the most important thing she accomplished there. To date, her best accomplishment is totally botching the health care bill as First... errr.. Lady...and turning America right for a generation.
She has the charisma of reptile, and not even a charming little lizard but more like a noisy pit viper. What was your favorite moment in the first campaign? Her flipping out when challenged on driver's licensees for illegals during the first debate? Her faux black accent? Her crying in New Hampshire? Her Lying about being shot at in the helicopter? Anyone remember when she said that people should vote for her because she can get the votes of "hard-working white people?" Yes, a real political genius, this one is.
The woman literally goes beyond being dishonest...its almost as if she looks at lying as a virtue, or gets off on what she can get over on America. I am not even going to get into the scandals, because they speak for themselves, except to say the best one, involving Bill's association with a child pornographer, is still out there as yet unpopped.
Instead, let us talk about how the woman has no moral compass what-so-ever on issues. She believes in post modern truth: her most profound conviction is whatever is expedient at the moment. She was before the Iraq war before she was against it. She was against gay marriage before she was for it. She was a law and order Democrat, and now she wants to let everyone out of jail that she helped put there (well, that is giving her too much credit, but you get the point). She was against driver's licenses for illegals, and now she want to go father than Obama. THIS WOMAN IS MORALLY BANKRUPT and had no rasion d'etre for running others than that she really, really wants to be president. Are you really confident that if elected, she would even be on your side? Doesn't it concern you just a bit that she has always been, in your lingo, a corporate hack?
We ALL hate Hillary whether we admit it or not (I do of course).
Now here is my point for Dems: I keep hearing the bragging about the "blue wall." You start out with a massive electoral advantage! Those of us from the caveman party will have to pull an inside straight to win this thing. You can win without Florida, or even Ohio! And demographic changes only help you over time.
You could put up a brown paper bag with a smiling face written on it and it would beat our best candidate hands down...even though it had no hands!
Why not just ditch her again? You did it once. didn't it feel great? If you really want the first woman, you could put up that Elizabeth Warren, who is totally unobjectionable other than being a borderline socialist and a fake Indian. You can have the no-holds-barred political Robin Hood stealing and spending other people's money that you really want!
For the second time, you could stick it to Hilldog and still be guaranteed the election!
Just think it over. I would like to start a movement here. This is one issue that I think deep down Dems and us caveman can agree on... ANYONE BUT HILLARY!
First off if Dems hated her so much she would have not made as close a contest with Obama as she did. Secondly, while not a Dem I can say with conviction that some moderate Dems and Liberals would consider an alternative to Hillary that is actually a better choice, right now those in the running against her are lacking that quality, maybe one will rise above the rest or maybe a new face will be the one, bit right now the GOP has a ways to go before telling the Dems they should consider someone else, especially a Repub. We shall see who rises to the top.
If you even entertain the hope that Americans will elect a Socialist as POTUS, you don't have a good grasp of reality.
Sanders, running as a independent has won in Vermont. Think about that. How exactly did a socialist win Vermont? And running against Democrats and Republicans.
I give him a 1 in 10 chance of beating Clinton. Thats my personal opinion, and I will adjust it as more polling data appears over time. I will agree thats not very good odds at all. Especially as we get closer and Nate Silver weighs in.
Sanders, running as a independent has won in Vermont. Think about that. How exactly did a socialist win Vermont? And running against Democrats and Republicans.
I give him a 1 in 10 chance of beating Clinton. Thats my personal opinion, and I will adjust it as more polling data appears over time. I will agree thats not very good odds at all. Especially as we get closer and Nate Silver weighs in.
We will just have to wait and see. I take it that you don't believe that Hillary Clinton should be POTUS.
We will just have to wait and see. I take it that you don't believe that Hillary Clinton should be POTUS.
That would be accurate. I think the Democrats deserve a better choice, and I am hoping the Republicans will come up with a better choice. Are the accusations being made about her true? Probably not. But I dislike the idea of running family dynasty's for president. I also believe Clinton represents the corporate folks, not the people. I'm not seeing better from the Republicans either though.
That would be accurate. I think the Democrats deserve a better choice, and I am hoping the Republicans will come up with a better choice. Are the accusations being made about her true? Probably not. But I dislike the idea of running family dynasty's for president. I also believe Clinton represents the corporate folks, not the people. I'm not seeing better from the Republicans either though.
We agree for once. The one thing I see is that even good people will trade their values for money. So sad.
I don't like Hillary and I didn't like Bill. But I will hold my nose and vote for her before I will vote for a republican, their clown car of candidates looks like something out of the movie Idiocracy
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