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Old 05-08-2015, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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I am a liberal Democrat and I agree with most of what the OP said.

The problem is, I don't dislike Hillary more than most of the likely Republican candidates.

I always said I would vote for Rand over Hillary, but his latest shifts in favor of increased military spending, opposing a pathway to citizenship, and, most importantly, his signing of the Cotton letter to Iran, have made me rethink my support.

He is flip-flopping big time on those issues. I understand why (primary voters), but his willingness to buck his own party when it was needed was what I liked about him in the first place.
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Old 05-08-2015, 09:22 PM
 
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Good to know that you have you have no dislike for a Secretary of State who refused to send help to the embassy in Benhazi in spite of the fact that she was told the people there could not be protected adequately. She denied Chris Stevens request for a private plane to fly them out (or maybe it was Susan Rice and Hillary was just a figurehead)
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Old 05-08-2015, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Good to know that you have you have no dislike for a Secretary of State
How did you get "no dislike" from: I don't dislike Hillary MORE than most of the likely Republican candidates.

Furthermore, your premise is wrong, according to the Republican-led investigation.

From the National Review:

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The investigation of the politically charged incident determined that there was no intelligence failure, no delay in sending a CIA rescue team, no missed opportunity for a military rescue
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Old 05-08-2015, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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How did you get "no dislike" from: I don't dislike Hillary MORE than most of the likely Republican candidates.

Furthermore, your premise is wrong, according to the Republican-led investigation.

From the National Review:
some people refuse to let the truth get in their way
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Old 05-08-2015, 10:06 PM
 
Location: South Texas
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Hillary wants to be president because she wants to be in history
Oh, she already has a place in the history books. Look in the index under "Benghazi."
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Old 05-08-2015, 10:07 PM
 
Location: South Texas
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Hillary isn't "unqualified"
"At this point, what difference does it make?" - HRC
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Old 05-08-2015, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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"At this point, what difference does it make?" - HRC
From the Republican-led investigation, according to the National Review:

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The investigation of the politically charged incident determined that there was no intelligence failure, no delay in sending a CIA rescue team, no missed opportunity for a military rescue
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:58 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Look, except for the most brain dead, useful idiot faction of the Democratic party, we all know that she is a totally unqualified and uncompelling candidate with no tangible accomplishment to show after being hand picked and walked in to both a Senate seat (as a carpet bagger!) and a cabinet post.

Why are you voting for her? The "Russian reset?" Yeah, that worked out. Libya? Another unqualified success that. Maybe you attend a library or post office that was named by a Hillary Clinton Senate bill, because that is the most important thing she accomplished there. To date, her best accomplishment is totally botching the health care bill as First... errr.. Lady...and turning America right for a generation.

She has the charisma of reptile, and not even a charming little lizard but more like a noisy pit viper. What was your favorite moment in the first campaign? Her flipping out when challenged on driver's licensees for illegals during the first debate? Her faux black accent? Her crying in New Hampshire? Her Lying about being shot at in the helicopter? Anyone remember when she said that people should vote for her because she can get the votes of "hard-working white people?" Yes, a real political genius, this one is.

The woman literally goes beyond being dishonest...its almost as if she looks at lying as a virtue, or gets off on what she can get over on America. I am not even going to get into the scandals, because they speak for themselves, except to say the best one, involving Bill's association with a child pornographer, is still out there as yet unpopped.

Instead, let us talk about how the woman has no moral compass what-so-ever on issues. She believes in post modern truth: her most profound conviction is whatever is expedient at the moment. She was before the Iraq war before she was against it. She was against gay marriage before she was for it. She was a law and order Democrat, and now she wants to let everyone out of jail that she helped put there (well, that is giving her too much credit, but you get the point). She was against driver's licenses for illegals, and now she want to go father than Obama. THIS WOMAN IS MORALLY BANKRUPT and had no rasion d'etre for running others than that she really, really wants to be president. Are you really confident that if elected, she would even be on your side? Doesn't it concern you just a bit that she has always been, in your lingo, a corporate hack?

We ALL hate Hillary whether we admit it or not (I do of course).

Now here is my point for Dems: I keep hearing the bragging about the "blue wall." You start out with a massive electoral advantage! Those of us from the caveman party will have to pull an inside straight to win this thing. You can win without Florida, or even Ohio! And demographic changes only help you over time.

You could put up a brown paper bag with a smiling face written on it and it would beat our best candidate hands down...even though it had no hands!

Why not just ditch her again? You did it once. didn't it feel great? If you really want the first woman, you could put up that Elizabeth Warren, who is totally unobjectionable other than being a borderline socialist and a fake Indian. You can have the no-holds-barred political Robin Hood stealing and spending other people's money that you really want!

For the second time, you could stick it to Hilldog and still be guaranteed the election!

Just think it over. I would like to start a movement here. This is one issue that I think deep down Dems and us caveman can agree on... ANYONE BUT HILLARY!
So I take it you have some real fear about her winning, huh?

Bc if you thought she is so ridiculous and doesn't have a chance in hell of winning, then why would you care this much about who liberals support on the Democratic ticket? Hell, you should be hoping liberals support her so that conservatives could theoretically have a better chance of winning.
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Old 05-09-2015, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Let's hope the GOP candidate's concession speech is shorter than that opening post.
this
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Old 05-09-2015, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Bernie sanders 2016

In all honesty....Republicans need to provide a non insane non far right candidate. So far they have better odds of Bernie sanders beating her, then any of their candidates. Well.....Walker might manage to beat her...so far nothing else is impressing me much. I don't even like Walker, but its hard picking between her and him.

FTR, the last time Republicans ran a candidate even paying lip service to conservative values (W), he won two terms.
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