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Old 05-13-2015, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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You DO know that Bill Clinton (not Hillary) is the founder of Clinton Foundation right? RIGHT?

You DO know that it was called the William J. Clinton Foundation until very recently right? RIGHT?

So why couldn't Bill Clinton answer questions about a foundation that he had founded and bears his name until recently????????

And you also know that when journalists want to ask questions about the Clinton Foundation, they know that Bill is the best person to talk to right????????


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You DO know that Hillary Clinton is running for President, don't you and that she's answered only about 8 questions from reporters since she declared?

And you DO know that one of the problems related to the Clinton Foundation has to do with her being Secretary of State and foreign donations to the foundation?

"Mrs. Clinton has done little to address the extensive donations or grants to her Foundation made by foreign governments while Mrs. Clinton was Secretary of State. Tens of millions of dollars in foreign government payments weren’t reported in tax filings for five years. The Foundations acting CEO said they were on the website. But it turns out that is not true either, as the Foundation has belatedly acknowledged."

Hillary Has Some 'Splainin' To Do About Clinton Foundation - Forbes

And you do know that another problem has to do with the State Department "speeding through Bill Clinton's steady stream of requests for events while rarely raising concerns about potential conflicts" while she was Secretary of State?

"State Department ethics officials gave quick approval, for example, for the two Barclays appearances and events paid by other international banks under legal scrutiny. Bill Clinton's $200,000 appearance in Florida for British-based HSBC in 2011 was cleared despite an ongoing federal money-laundering investigation that led to a 2012 settlement with prosecutors...State Department officials under Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton moved quickly when aides to Bill Clinton asked them in March 2010 to approve plans for the former president to address clients of a multinational British bank, Barclays. Within four days, the department's ethics office signed off on the request... That decision remained unchanged even after the Justice Department announced just months later, in August 2010, that Barclays Bank agreed to pay nearly $300 million in penalties for violating financial sanctions against Iran, Cuba, Sudan, Libya and Burma. The long-running case had hardly been a secret: Barclays had openly acknowledged in its annual reports — as recently as the same month as Clinton's 2010 request — that it was under investigation by the Justice Department and others for sanctions violations, and it cautioned that the impact on its profits "could be substantial."

State Department under Hillary Clinton gave blanket approval for Bill Clinton speeches around the globe | MLive.com


Among the complaints:

- The foundation can serve as a backdoor for governments or foreign citizens hoping to influence a future president. U.S. law bans political campaigns from accepting foreign money.

- Many big donors to the foundation also lobbied the State Department while Clinton was in charge.

- Despite pledges of transparency, names of foreign donors who contributed through a Canadian affiliate of the foundation haven't been made public.

- Some of the foreign sums are mind-boggling. Canadian mining billionaire Frank Giustra, founder of the Canadian affiliate, has given the Clinton Foundation more than $31 million. Ukrainian billionaire Victor Pinchuk and the country of Saudi Arabia each gave between $10 million and $25 million, according to the foundation.

- A new book, "Clinton Cash," by Peter Schweizer, says the timing of some foreign donations coincides with favorable decisions by U.S. officials, suggesting the possibility of influence-selling. The book points, for example, to government approval of the sale of a uranium mining company Giustra invested in, including its American mines, to the Russian atomic energy agency. Giustra says he had sold his stake by then.

- Donations from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and other Mideast nations that deny women equal rights have been criticized by Republican presidential candidates. Sen. Rand Paul said promoting women's rights while taking millions from countries where "rape victims are publicly lashed" is "a grand hypocrisy."

- Many of the foundation's donors are companies and organizations that also paid Bill Clinton six-figure speaking fees while his wife was secretary of state. And several are big contributors to Hillary Clinton's political campaigns.

- Clinton's husband and daughter are still on the foundation board, leaving an opening for conflicts of interest. Bill and Chelsea Clinton just wrapped up a nine-day trip to Africa to highlight their charity's good works. The former president said he would consider stepping down if his wife wins her own term in the Oval Office.


http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20150513_ap_65b578683b6f4b5fb0dcc0415214775a.html


My original post isn't about the Clinton Foundation being shady. My original post has to do with the hypocrisy of a campaign meant to showcase her as a strong woman but she's too afraid of answering reporter questions about her time as Secretary of State and the conflicts with the foundation. What's she going to do cry about this one too like she did the last time she ran?

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Old 05-13-2015, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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We're already seeing the outlines of the campaign strategy. This is going to be the most sheltered, shrouded campaign in history. I'm sure that Hillary would have preferred to wait till June or even July to announce, but probably had a lot of pressure on her to announce so that Democrats could breathe a sigh of relief. But after announcing she promptly disappeared from sight.

They know she won't have to get out that much during the primaries, so she won't. Then after the convention in August 2016 there will be just three months left, and she'll be able to get away with an air campaign. Any ground appearances will be carefully micro-managed and choreographed. She'll have to debate, but look for Team Hillary to push for a minimal debate schedule.

As I always say, a prediction does not constitute an argument, but we're already seeing the outlines, and that is just what I would do if I were her strategist. We'll see what happens.
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:50 PM
 
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Yeah I notice Hillary has been MIA ... She is going to lose badly... I will be pissed off if I was her, she got con into running, thinking she could have any chance of winning... Sucks to be the sucker, Hillary...
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Old 05-14-2015, 05:44 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Jeb Bush has done more talking and campaigning than Hillary and he has not announced he is even running for President.

Ted, Rand and Marco, have been getting hammered by the media with questions and interviews.
Even Bernie sanders has done more talking.
Bill seems to be campaigning for a 3rd term.
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Old 05-14-2015, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Don't expect Hillary to be very visible just yet.

Since she is by far the best known candidate in the entire field, there are no advantages at all for her to become prominent just yet, and there's every advantage for her to just stay quiet and let the Republican candidates form another circular firing squad and let 'em go at it. She is not about to hand them any ammunition.

Hillary makes mistakes, but the important thing to remember is that she learns from her mistakes and doesn't repeat them. She became too prominent too early and for too long in 2008, and by the time it really counted, there was some Hillary fatigue than had begun. It's hard to say just how much that hurt her, but for sure, she won't do the same thing again.
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Old 05-14-2015, 07:48 PM
 
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oobviously voting for her is a bad idea since she's just a proxy for bill
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Old 05-14-2015, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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oobviously voting for her is a bad idea since she's just a proxy for bill
Actually, it's the other way around. Ever since Lewinsky, she's had Bill by the shorthairs. He carries her water now, including dealing with the Clinton Foundation unpleasantness.
In this case........, "Payback, truly is a *****.

Bill actually will make a perfect first lady. First ladies go around and try to make the world a better place from a maternal perspective. That's what he's doing now, so it's not a big stretch.
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Old 05-14-2015, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Having disgraced their family so many times, Bill is belatedly trying to stick up for his wife's honor (which is no small feat). Being an old fashioned southern boy, he feels he can hose around endlessly, but will fight for his family. We will see him trying to defend her from any and all critiques with torrents of words. A vomitous prospect.

Just another reason to pass on Clinton Redux.
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Old 05-14-2015, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Having disgraced their family so many times, Bill is belatedly trying to stick up for his wife's honor (which is no small feat). Being an old fashioned southern boy, he feels he can hose around endlessly, but will fight for his family. We will see him trying to defend her from any and all critiques with torrents of words. A vomitous prospect.

Just another reason to pass on Clinton Redux.
I'm not so sure I hold such a heavy handed condemnation of Bill Clinton's sexual proclivities as you do. No more than I do Picasso, JFK or Thomas Jefferson.
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Old 05-14-2015, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Inland Empire, Calif
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The dems in here are absolutely brainwashed. Hillary is a totally failure who has never accomplished anything legal of of any value, and they worship her like she is something special.
Blind faith, and totally misplaced..
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