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Old 08-09-2015, 03:44 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Hmm, Obama has bombed 7 Arab nations since he took office killing 10s of thousands. He has had more troops fighting in the middle east than Bush ever did and 1000s of American soldiers have died while he has been in office. And in every country where he attacked, there is nothing but lawlessness, chaos, and 1000s of innocents suffering at the hands of the terrorists who took power in the vacuum left behind.

You might want to wake up, smell & drink some coffee, and quit sniffing that blue ink you seem fond of. There is nothing compassionate about that at all.

As someone already said in this topic there is no relevant difference between the Democrats and Republicans.

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This is why Trump is far ahead in the polls and destined to stay that way no matter how hard the MSM and political status quo establishment tries to engineer false controversy after false controversy against him.


Thank You for speaking the truth And understanding it.

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Old 08-09-2015, 03:59 PM
 
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Agree on both

Rand Paul was given little time during the debate. He went after Trump with was a smart move and gave him more exposure but it still was't enough. He is not like his father, he is different. That is something that has disappointed many of his followers. They expected an extension of his father. I also think he is going to collapse in the next polls and I don't see him being picked as VP by any of the other contenders.
IMO Paul hasn't accomplished anything in his political career other than blabbering for hours on end. I personally don't understand why anyone follows him. He went after Trump and Christie which made him look like a pathetic child.
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Old 08-09-2015, 04:02 PM
 
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There isnt much difference between republicans and democrats... if you want a real difference you need someone like Ron Paul.

Look at the last 30 years or so, not much difference between which political party is in the White House.
I am an independent, neither Dem or Rep. Ron Paul has done zip in DC so far.
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Old 08-09-2015, 04:09 PM
 
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IMO Paul hasn't accomplished anything in his political career other than blabbering for hours on end. I personally don't understand why anyone follows him. He went after Trump and Christie which made him look like a pathetic child.
He is living on his fathers principals and legacy. The Ron Paul supporters still support him because they really have no one else to support or assimilate with. Aside from that, they are dissapointed that he is not a carbon copy of his father.
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Old 08-09-2015, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The Pauls are uniquely qualified to comment on Trump's remarks about Kelly. Rand can have a look at that blood in her eyes and Ron can evaluate her whatever.
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Old 08-09-2015, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I just rewatched the main debate. I found myself fading in interest when Scott Walker and Ted Cruz spoke.
I still think Trump will flame out, but not for awhile.
Neutral=Trump, Christie, Huckabee, Carter
Negative=Walker, Cruz, Paul
Positive=Bush, Kasich, Rubio, Fiorina
Bush moved up in my estimation. I've always thought he was unimpressive until now, and Fiorina needs to be bumped to first tier.
"Mr. Unintimidated" was afraid to take any risks at the debate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEVnLxFFVxk
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Old 08-09-2015, 05:15 PM
 
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Although on paper Ms. Kelly is qualified, I felt many of her questions were not the type of debatable questions. AFA Trump's remarks on Kelly, again I felt her questions regarding his past remarks about women were not put in a good content, i.e. she could have poised the question, "in the past you have made undignified remarks critical of women and their looks, etc." Instead she sounded very unprofessional in my opinion, on several questions, not only that one.
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Old 08-09-2015, 05:29 PM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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Ben Carson: Likeable, funny and intelligent. Too soft spoken. I'm not sure about the presidency though I bet he'll hold his own. I liked him.

Mike Huckabee: Not my cup of tea, though gave good answers to some questions. But he is too conservative for my liking and won't get the nomination. Okay.

Rand Paul: Performed terribly, acted childish and his attack on Donald Trump to me came off as an attempt to engage Trump. He probably thought taking on Trump would help his name and people would talk about him and what not. But surprisingly Donald was very civil and just dismissed Rand Paul as having "bad night". I did not like Rand Paul, he is not his father.

Chris Christie: I normally do not like him, but he grew on me and his answers were solid. He definitely can go on to the next debates. I liked him.

Marco Rubio: Young and full of energy, he has a future and I think he did well. I liked him.

Scott Walker: Came off better than I had expected, he seemed respectful of others and did not attack. Liked him better than I would have anticipated.

Donald Trump: So-so. His comments to Megan Kelly were very gross, but some of his answers were not bad. He did not engage others and attack them, and seemed to really observe the other candidates and listen to them. The Donald seemed diminished, but in a grounded way. I think moderators should ask him questions regarding different things and see what kind of solutions he will propose. Stop with his controversial stuff and ask about substantial issues. I liked Donald Trump.

Jeb Bush: Okay, he has a strong resume and he demonstrated it. Sure some said he did not go all out, but I think Bush did well. He was not terrible at all.

John Kasich rubbed me the right way, was not the bland board I thought he would be.

Ted Cruz, meh.

Of the pre debates I liked George Pataki, seems moderate on social issues and conservative in everything else, and was a three term governor of a large state-NY.

Jim Gilmore seems presidential, and for no particular reason I liked him.


The others were okay, not terrible. Good speakers like Bobby Jindal, but with weak performances in terms of being governor.


Do not like Carly Fiorina at all.
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Old 08-09-2015, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Florida
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If Rand Paul collapses in the polls and Christie goes up in the polls,, the media is programming the people how to think.. Rand Paul was for keeping the government from listening to our phone calls.. Christie was fine with it.. Christie is the one blowing hot air.. the media is so wrong.

Christie is a rino.. Rand is a guy with moxie and a libertarian.

Bush -retread of the past and present ..he will NOT DO ANYTHING on illegals ..he married an illegal when he went to Mexico to teach english to Mexicans when he was 17.

Rubio is rehearsed and will fall in line with the rest of the established Rinos.. not strong enough

Cruz is a fighter against corrupt politicians..he is truthful . Goes up..

Carson is a very intelligent man who is in it to turn things around.. both racially and politically. He is a good man. Goes up..
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Old 08-09-2015, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The only thing that is worth seeing in the post debate polls is how Trump fares after defying political wisdom. I think he will go up. The rest of them can move up, down or sideways, but it is too early for any of that to matter. Bush is still the front runner and most likely to win no matter what numbers come out.
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