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Old 08-29-2015, 07:38 PM
 
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This part of Noonan's piece on Trump is the REAL Story...

No, you have it wrong. Immigrants, he
said, don’t like illegal immigration, and they’re with Mr. Trump on
anchor babies. “



''Something is going on, some tectonic plates are moving in interesting
ways. My friend Cesar works the deli counter at my neighborhood
grocery store. He is Dominican, an immigrant, early 50s, and listens
most mornings to a local Hispanic radio station, La Mega, on 97.9 FM.
Their morning show is the popular “El Vacilón de la Mañana,” and after
the first GOP debate, Cesar told me, they opened the lines to
call-ins, asking listeners (mostly Puerto Rican, Dominican, Mexican)
for their impressions. More than half called in to say they were for
Mr. Trump. Their praise, Cesar told me a few weeks ago, dumbfounded
the hosts. I later spoke to one of them, who identified himself as
D.J. New Era. He backed Cesar’s story. “We were very surprised,” at
the Trump support, he said. Why? “It’s a Latin-based market!”

“He’s the man,” Cesar said of Mr. Trump. This week I went by and Cesar
told me that after Mr. Trump threw Univision’s well-known anchor and
immigration activist, Jorge Ramos, out of an Iowa news conference on
Tuesday evening, the “El Vacilón” hosts again threw open the phone
lines the following morning and were again surprised that the majority
of callers backed not Mr. Ramos but Mr. Trump. Cesar, who I should
probably note sees me, I sense, as a very nice establishment person
who needs to get with the new reality, was delighted.

I said: Cesar, you’re supposed to be offended by Trump, he said Mexico
is sending over criminals, he has been unfriendly, you’re an
immigrant. Cesar shook his head: No, you have it wrong. Immigrants, he
said, don’t like illegal immigration, and they’re with Mr. Trump on
anchor babies. “They are coming in from other countries to give birth
to take advantage of the system. We are saying that! When you come to
this country, you pledge loyalty to the country that opened the doors
to help you.”

He added, “We don’t bloc vote anymore.” The idea of a “Latin vote” is
“disparate,” which he said generally translates as nonsense, but which
he means as “bull----.”

He finished, on the subject of Jorge Ramos: “The elite have different
notions from the grass-roots working people.”
Yowza!

IF that info is right: Hillary or who wins the Dem primary is toast.

Tho Hispanics can be from over 20 countries and not all of them like illegal aliens, even other Latinos.

Too: Trump in a way reminds me of a "Hispanic" with his blunt talk.
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Old 08-29-2015, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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You are 7 years behind, pal. BTW, Palin may wind up being Trump's Veep.
One of Palin's pet issues is that she's anti-corporatism, and she would not accept the VP slot w/ a Trump.
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Old 08-29-2015, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Florida
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You are 7 years behind, pal. BTW, Palin may wind up being Trump's Veep.
We are praying that is the case. Praying.
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Old 08-29-2015, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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This is really refreshing. Legal immigrants know what's up. They came to America because they actually want to be Americans and to escape the lawlessness and system-gaming in their native countries.
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Old 08-29-2015, 08:05 PM
 
Location: USA = 2017 New Venezuela
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That's not in-depth analysis. It's all anecdotal. A real analysis would include polls. For all we know Cesar could have cherry picked the callers.

Polls are a more accurate measure than some radio host claiming his community loves Donald Trump. Polls might change in the future but they are a good reflection of where the election is heading. Donald Trump is not very popular among Latinos yet. It might change in the future but not as of now.
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Old 08-29-2015, 08:07 PM
 
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For the record, WSJ is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, which also owns Fox. Don't believe you'll see the WSJ editorial board coming out in favor of Trump, at least not if they want to stay in Rupert's good graces.
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Old 08-29-2015, 08:13 PM
 
Location: cary, nc
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I love Peggy Noonan, because she is ALWAYS Wrong.
Peggy Noonan: Romney Will Beat Obama, Because - Business Insider
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Old 08-29-2015, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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We are praying that is the case. Praying.
Yo. Separation of church and state, please.
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Old 08-30-2015, 01:41 AM
 
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That's not in-depth analysis. It's all anecdotal. A real analysis would include polls. For all we know Cesar could have cherry picked the callers.

Polls are a more accurate measure than some radio host claiming his community loves Donald Trump. Polls might change in the future but they are a good reflection of where the election is heading. Donald Trump is not very popular among Latinos yet. It might change in the future but not as of now.

''Mr. Trump and Mr. Ramos actually got into that, when
Mr. Ramos finally questioned him after being allowed back into the
news conference. Mr. Trump countered with a recent Nevada poll that
has him with a state lead of 28%—and he scored even higher with
Nevada’s Hispanics, who gave him 31% support.

I will throw in here that almost wherever I’ve been this summer, I
kept meeting immigrants who are or have grown conservative—more men
than women, but women too.

On the subject of elites, I spoke to Scott Miller, co-founder of the
Sawyer Miller political-consulting firm, who is now a corporate
consultant. He worked on the Ross Perot campaign in 1992 and knows
something about outside challenges. He views the key political fact of
our time as this: “Over 80% of the American people, across the board,
believe an elite group of political incumbents, plus big business, big
media, big banks, big unions and big special interests—the whole
Washington political class—have rigged the system for the wealthy and
connected.” It is “a remarkable moment,” he said. More than half of
the American people believe “something has changed, our democracy is
not like it used to be, people feel they no longer have a voice.”
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Old 08-30-2015, 02:04 AM
 
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And electing a billionaire who has greased the wheels of politicians for 40 years is going to get money out of politics how exactly?
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