Ben Carson Muslim Comments / Constitution's Article 6 DOESN'T APPLY!!!! (wage, Reagan, Republicans)
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There are already Muslims in the military, in state and federal congress, judges?
How do you explain this statement.
“Muslims feel that their religion is very much a part of your public life and what you do as a public official, and that’s inconsistent with our principles and our Constitution.”
I don't have the context of his full statement, but judging from what I can tell, he's saying that a Muslim wouldn't be able to separate his religiosity from the secular duties of being the President, which sounds right to me.
Regardless, it's all beside the point, because, right or wrong, this is just his OPINION as a voter and as a citizen, NOT a policy proposal. The Constitution says there can be no official "religious test", it doesn't say that individual voters can't have an opinion on a candidates faith....
What you said goes both ways. Conservatives claim violation of free speech every time a hate-monger like Paula Dean or Mr. Duck Dynasties gets dropped by a sponsor for something they said, they are out whining about free speech.
Anyone who invokes the 1st Amendments freedom of speech clause when a private business or sponsor drops someone over their comments has just as little understanding of the Constitution as those invoking Article 6 over what Carson said.
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Originally Posted by Myghost
This discussion is not about instilling Sharia law, it's about if a Muslim can hold the office of President.
No, actually that's NOT what this conversation is about. It's about the misapplication of Article 6 of the Constitution to someone's personal opinion.
I could care less whether people agree with Carson or not, just don't quote Article 6 of the Constitution. It doesn't apply unless and until Carson proposes a law banning Muslim presidents.
He is entitled to his own opinion but he stated that a leader is in conflict with our constitution because of their religion, that is exactly the type of discrimination the founders were attempting to avoid.
No, it's not. It's this free exchange of thoughts, ideas, and dialogue, and the scrutiny of such, that the founders sought to protect when they drafted the 1st Amendment.
Until Ben Carson tries to codify his opinions in to LAW, he isn't at odds with the vision of the founders.
This is not the way to help your party, and here I thought the GOP was expanding it's tent to bring in minorities and other religions.
They already lost most of the hispanic vote and there goes the Muslim (2%) vote down the drain as they march towards yest another presidential defeat, who will they insult next.
Liberals love to stereotype and put everyone in a little box, don't they? They do it with virtually everyone from blacks, to Hispanics, to women....
PS.
Muslim voters would likely be more in line with Conservatives than Liberals when it comes right down to it, hate to tell ya....
I don't have the context of his full statement, but judging from what I can tell, he's saying that a Muslim wouldn't be able to separate his religiosity from the secular duties of being the President, which sounds right to me.
Regardless, it's all beside the point, because, right or wrong, this is just his OPINION as a voter and as a citizen, NOT a policy proposal. The Constitution says there can be no official "religious test", it doesn't say that individual voters can't have an opinion on a candidates faith....
Yes of course it's his opinion same as Trumps view on citizenship for those born in the US, but for someone running for president to make that statement. That's a pretty sweeping generality making the case that a Muslim couldn't separate religion from their duty as president as there is a rather large spectrum in just about every religion.
Seems like we had more than a few Christian politicians blur the lines in Oklahoma, Alabama and other places but no one would ever make that statement.
No, it's not. It's this free exchange of thoughts, ideas, and dialogue, and the scrutiny of such, that the founders sought to protect when they drafted the 1st Amendment.
Until Ben Carson tries to codify his opinions in to LAW, he isn't at odds with the vision of the founders.
We are discussing his opinion not his ability to place them into law, since when is that the standard. It was a dumb statement for someone that wants to be president.
Ben Carson wouldn't vote for a Muslim for President... Seems a lot of people in the media, and even TED CRUZ, want to invoke Article 6 of the Constitution, which states that there can be no "religious test" for prospective presidential candidates.... Too bad that this is a complete misapplication of Article 6.
Has someone in the media come out and said Carson doesn't have a right to his opinion based on Art. 6 of the Constitution? Do you have a link for that comment?
(I haven't listened to any media on this issue), but were they possibly intimating that Carson's opinion could never be legislated into law due to Art. 6? I'm curious...
I don't want a follower of Allah and his prophet ( peace be upon him ) as the President of the United States. Any sane person in western civilization will not want one as president of their Nation.
I don't want a follower of Allah and his prophet ( peace be upon him ) as the President of the United States. Any sane person in western civilization will not want one as president of their Nation.
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
You are actually saying our founding fathers had a mental disorder, for they prohibited any religious test for office. Ideally, we would never know one's religious beliefs.
They also openly welcomed Muslims and all religions to practice.
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