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View Poll Results: Who will most likely be the next president? Who do you think will actually win?
Rubio 8 15.38%
Clinton 21 40.38%
Bush 1 1.92%
Sanders 5 9.62%
Trump 12 23.08%
Fiorina 0 0%
Biden 2 3.85%
Carson 1 1.92%
Kasich 1 1.92%
Cruz 1 1.92%
Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-22-2015, 02:05 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Yes, I agree guys. I should have just put Clinton, Biden, bush, Rubio and Kasich as the choices. Nobody else has even 1% chance to win.
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Old 09-22-2015, 02:06 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Seriously, people? Clinton? Right now she's standing on a banana peel, and she's about to go down. She is dishonest, she's not trustworthy, she has no new ideas, she is a big time Progressive (socialist - at least Sanders admits it) and she is as tyrannical as B. H. O.

It's rigged my friend.
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Old 09-22-2015, 02:07 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I'm surprised Trump supporters don't understand he can not win. Even if he gets all the votes, he won't win the nomination.
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Old 09-22-2015, 02:13 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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It will probably be Clinton unless Biden enters the race, but that's simply because that's who the media is telling us it will be. Despite being the front runner, I don't see a lot of excitement for her. She is kind of like the Democratic John McCain. She's tried and true and seen as inevitable but nobody really wants to vote for her. Unless a Democratic challenger can upset her, she will probably coast to victory. Nobody on the GOP side can appeal to religious conservatives, establishment Republicans, and moderates. Any GOP candidate needs all three groups to win.
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Old 09-22-2015, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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I think Democrats will win presidency in 2016. American politics for another 4-8 years.
It shouldn't be so. Parties in the US/Canada/UK/Australia .. etc have a natural 5-8 years in office before they collect baggage and scandals and voters want a change. This election is gift wrapped for the GOP and they are going to blow it.
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Old 09-22-2015, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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It shouldn't be so. Parties in the US/Canada/UK/Australia .. etc have a natural 5-8 years in office before they collect baggage and scandals and voters want a change. This election is gift wrapped for the GOP and they are going to blow it.
It shouldn't be, but It is the reality now. People cannot even tolerate a Libertarian leaning Republican, the media and the stupid have to label him an isolationist. Most are low info voters who never do their own research.

One thing Trump said is right, He said people shouldn't care about the president's personal opinions about gay marriage and abortion. I totally agree. Social issues are really hurting Republicans. Just chill, and they (we) might have a chance in the future.

People care about national security (without wars), jobs, economy, social securities, etc. I don't think most care about Israel, middle east that much or what others do in their bedrooms. Religion is a personal journey, I went to Catholic schools when I was a kid, I have a PERSONAL relationship with Jesus, and I don't tell other sinners who commit a bigger sin. That is tacky.

Bring Troop home, veterans benefits, Non-interventionism strong military, strong economy, fair and free trade, secure border, Immigration Enforcement, These are what I care about. I don't care about hair, skin, they (the politicians) all look ugly to me

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Old 09-22-2015, 03:03 PM
 
Location: USA = 2017 New Venezuela
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It shouldn't be, but It is the reality now. People cannot even tolerate a Libertarian leaning Republican, the media and the stupid have to label him an isolationist. Most are low info voters who never do their own research.

One thing Trump said is right, He said people shouldn't care about the president's personal opinions about gay marriage and abortion. I totally agree. Social issues are really hurting Republicans. Just chill, and they (we) might have a chance in the future.

People care about national security (without wars), jobs, economy, social securities, etc. I don't think most care about Israel, middle east that much or what others do in their bedrooms. Religion is a personal journey, I went to Catholic schools when I was a kid, I have a PERSONAL relationship with Jesus, and I don't tell other sinners who commit a bigger sin. That is tacky.
I like some libertarian ideas but my problem with them is that they love to pander to Christian fundamentalists. I can't deal with that. I'm not voting for anyone who wants to use "freedom of religion" to suppress the civil liberties of others. I think many people with liberal social views agree with me. My guess is that we are more than 50"% of the U.S. population.

Don't want to bake cakes for gay people? Then don't work with the public. Same with Kim Davis. What's next? Avoid servicing black people because it goes against your liberty of speech? Religious freedom is not freedom when you want to use it to discriminate others.
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Old 09-22-2015, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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I'm surprised Trump supporters don't understand he can not win. Even if he gets all the votes, he won't win the nomination.
He doesn't have to win the nomination for the GOP to win the Presidential election necessarily. If others are like me, we are willing to vote the 3rd party because we are voting for the person/policies rather than a party.

I still think Jeb will get the nomination. Money speaks. Also the GOP has ran candidates that lost before the election even started in the last 2 Presidential elections so why not "Jeb"?
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Old 09-22-2015, 05:02 PM
 
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If it's Rubio vs. Clinton, I can see Rubio winning. Jeb is too much of a loser and a bore.

Electorally, Rubio would already have an advantage with Florida. If he could rack up enough support in Ohio, I believe the other swing states will fall like dominos.

Also, fellow Republicans, Trump can not win a general election. A vote for Trump in the primaries is a vote for Hillary in the general election. Think strategically instead of taking Trump's word as gospel.
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Old 09-22-2015, 05:15 PM
 
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If it's Rubio vs. Clinton, I can see Rubio winning. Jeb is too much of a loser and a bore.

Electorally, Rubio would already have an advantage with Florida. If he could rack up enough support in Ohio, I believe the other swing states will fall like dominos.

Also, fellow Republicans, Trump can not win a general election. A vote for Trump in the primaries is a vote for Hillary in the general election. Think strategically instead of taking Trump's word as gospel.
Yep

Rubio/Kasich 2016

At least that looks like the ticket that gives the GOP their best chance to me. Maximize your chances of taking Florida and Ohio (along with holding NC) to reach 253 EV. Pick up the needed additional electoral votes in some combination of Virginia (13), Colorado (9), Iowa (6) or New Hampshire (4).
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