The GOPe Plan If You Remove Donald Trump….

[WaldoKitty]

Originally Posted by nononsenseguy

Not exactly. I don't think anyone ever considered Reagan as "the new establishment" when he surprised many by winning with the biggest landslide in history. No one thought he could win. No one thought he would be the nominee, either.

Yet Reaganism became the new standard of the GOP, the Atwater Strategy became the way the GOP has won elections ever since, and any candidate today still holds Reagan in reverence. Reagan had as much effect on the "establishment" as the Kennedy's did until Clintonism took over. The Rovians didn't become the "establishment" until W won the election in 2000. (even his dad was living under Reaganism)



So I disagree with you on this.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

The notion that the GOPe is planting negative info in the media to discredit otherwise good candidates is laughable. The narrative being created about the flaws of Carson, Cruz, Paul and others is TRUE. There is no need to plant anything. The voters will figure that out for themselves just listening to these candidates. Bush and Rubio will duke it out until Bush wins on the maturity aspect. That much about Rubio may be spin, but the rest on the rest? Nah, they really are a bunch of clowns.

That isn't true. You can look at the issue with the NRSC getting involved in Mississippi. They went on a witch hunt against Chris McDaniel’s campaign because he was ahead in the polls. He is now supporting Ted Cruz's presidential campaign, because Ted Cruz was the only person to stand up for him.

You can also follow the story of Ken Cuccinelli running for Governor in 2014. The RNC refused to help fund him at a critical point and we lost to a Democrat. He was too conservative for them.

The GOPe are having fits that Donald Trump is throwing a wrench into their plans. Trump was right to call Rove a jerk, because he is. Although his nickname, "Turd Blossom", is more accurate.

Rove called up Ted Cruz and blasted him for getting support from GB during his Senate race against Dewhurst. Rove was furious and threatened Cruz not to make that public, because it interfered with their fundraising plans for the GWB Library. He told Cruz to return the check, but it had already been cashed.

Rove also told Ted Cruz he didn't have a chance to win the Senatorial race against Dewhurst. He told him, "Ted, you are a fool. You will be outraised by all of them. You are a fool because you've already won the AG race. You're blowing a sure thing and taking on an impossible race."

That is probably Rove's view today on Cruz's bid for the WH.