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Old 10-22-2015, 01:13 PM
 
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Is it ideology or race that will get Carson 90% of the Black vote if he is the GOP nominee?
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Old 10-22-2015, 02:24 PM
 
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Is it ideology or race that will get Carson 90% of the Black vote if he is the GOP nominee?
I would be stunned if Carson gets more than 10% of the Black vote. Obviously he would do a tiny bit better than McCain and Romney since Obama is not running but the overwhelmingly vast majority of Blacks will vote Democratic.

Quite simply the GOP has nothing to offer to voters who are not White people in the Deep South and the Midwest. That's why we keep losing. People don't give a fig about gay marriage anymore. People in the rest of the nation are not scared to death of Spanish speaking people ... they are our friends, neighbors, co-workers, and loved ones. We're going to keep losing until we figure out what non-rural White voters and others want. America doesent want 1950s era social conservatism and views of ethnic minorities anymore.
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Old 10-22-2015, 02:29 PM
 
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I don't see the appeal with Carson. I think in all honesty - He's just too nice and soft spoken... I won't vote for him...
I'll take Carson over Trump.
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Old 10-22-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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Put down the coffee and relax. Not long ago Carson came within a point of Trump and people like you started wondering when he is going to drop out. In a matter of days the poll was outdated.
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You are Out of Order, here, pal. That's a STINKING LIE. I never wondered or stated ANYTHING regarding Trump ''dropping out.''

Watch your False accusations !!
Yeah HappyRider falsely accuses people all the time. People need to start reporting him for flaming.
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Old 10-23-2015, 11:18 AM
 
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Is it ideology or race that will get Carson 90% of the Black vote if he is the GOP nominee?
I think that blacks will still vote Democrat for the most part. I don't think many will switch parties just because Carson is black.
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Old 10-24-2015, 05:13 PM
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How accurate are these polls? Are they legit? I know one thing is for sure, most of the press isn't truthful.
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Old 10-24-2015, 05:19 PM
 
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How accurate are these polls? Are they legit? I know one thing is for sure, most of the press isn't truthful.
They are only accurate and legit when Trump is winning.

Trump will get his #1 spot after Iowans realized Monsanto was messing up with their brains and making them vote for Carson
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Old 10-24-2015, 05:28 PM
 
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Is it ideology or race that will get Carson 90% of the Black vote if he is the GOP nominee?
I doubt it. People like Clarence Thomas, Alan West and Herman Cain are not well regarded by the African-American community at large. Since Obama will be actively campaigning for the Democratic nominee (whoever it might be) in the African-American community, it would be difficult for Dr. Carson to gain a foothold.

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Old 10-24-2015, 05:33 PM
 
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Iowa Republicans are some of the most socially conservative of the bunch, representing the Evangelical vote. Their state is NOT a crystal ball when it comes to the GOP nominee. In 2012 Santorum tied the Iowa caucus with Romney, and in 2008 Mike Huckabee won (John McCain only placed fourth). In '96 Bob Dole beat Pat Buchanan by only 3 percentage points, and in '88 Pat Robertson took second place. (No caucuses in '04, '92, or '84.) And in '80 they chose Bush over Reagan.

My sources: Caucus history: Past years' results | Iowa Caucuses
2012 Iowa Republican Caucus Results

In a nutshell, Trump not winning Iowa is insignificant.
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Old 10-24-2015, 05:54 PM
 
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Iowa Republicans are some of the most socially conservative of the bunch, representing the Evangelical vote. Their state is NOT a crystal ball when it comes to the GOP nominee. In 2012 Santorum tied the Iowa caucus with Romney, and in 2008 Mike Huckabee won (John McCain only placed fourth). In '96 Bob Dole beat Pat Buchanan by only 3 percentage points, and in '88 Pat Robertson took second place. (No caucuses in '04, '92, or '84.) And in '80 they chose Bush over Reagan.

My sources: Caucus history: Past years' results | Iowa Caucuses
2012 Iowa Republican Caucus Results

In a nutshell, Trump not winning Iowa is insignificant.
In what you just posted, the eventual republican nominee came in either 1st or 2nd in Iowa almost every time.

Trump fell out of first place and appears to be on a downward trajectory 3 months away from voting so of course it's news.

He can turn it around but typically once voters start leaving at this point it's hard to get them back. We'll see.
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