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Old 11-15-2015, 05:35 PM
 
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Old 11-15-2015, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Just outside of McDonough, Georgia
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Here's the thing...France did not completely close its borders. That's media hyperbole.

First, all rail, ferry, and air services continued. Any operators that suspended traffic that night (American Airlines, Eurostar) did so on their own accord, not by order of the French government. There is heightened security at airports and tightened border controls, but the borders are not closed.

Regarding the open borders at the road crossings, there are now border checks, but they are not closed. The free movement granted under the Schengen treaty are temporarily suspended:

https://twitter.com/michaelh992/stat...40697334288384

So yes, France has stepped up border security, but the borders are not closed. You can get in or out.

- skbl17
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Old 11-15-2015, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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70 million non US people legally enter the US each year for purposes of tourism, business and education.

As you say almost all arrive via US International airports.

Seems like some folk expect the US to ban all international arrivals.
When you deplane you have to go through customs and present paperwork. If something isn't right they may detain you and deny entry, or arrest you.
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Old 11-15-2015, 06:04 PM
 
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And now the Obama administration says it will not change plans to bring 10,000 Syrian "refugees" into our country, claiming " and that the United States is fully capable of vetting the refugees."

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...-paris-attacks

Yet the Intelligence community argues:

The U.S. and Europe are unable to effectively vet the millions of refugees streaming out of Syria, the former head of the House Intelligence Committee said on Sunday, after reports emerged that one of the men responsible for Friday’s attacks in France had disguised himself among the migrants.

The intelligence is simply too thin to dig deep into the backgrounds of each and every refugee, former Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”
“I’m not sure why this shocked everybody,” Rogers said. “There is not a vetting process … that can vet every single individual refugee coming in on the refugee program.”

Friday evening’s coordinated strikes in Paris are sure to spark a new debate over the Syrian refugees, 11 million of whom have been forced out of their homes. Masses of the migrants have overwhelmed borders in Europe and strained neighboring countries.

The U.S., meanwhile, has accepted roughly 2,000 refugees. Despite humanitarian pleas for the country to accept more, some critics have been worried that terrorists might slip in among their ranks.

Last month, FBI Director James Comey told Senate lawmakers that “gaps” remained in the U.S.'s ability to screen the refugees, because of a lack of intelligence on the ground in Syria.

“There is risk associated of bringing anybody in from the outside, but specifically from a conflict zone like that,” Comey said.


http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...e-fully-vetted

So, once again the Obama administration will ignore the advice from pros and compromise the safety of Americans. Why? For his "legacy?"

A good explanation of what ISIS is trying to achieve-

What ISIS Really Wants - The Atlantic
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Old 11-15-2015, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Here's the thing...France did not completely close its borders. That's media hyperbole.

First, all rail, ferry, and air services continued. Any operators that suspended traffic that night (American Airlines, Eurostar) did so on their own accord, not by order of the French government. There is heightened security at airports and tightened border controls, but the borders are not closed.

Regarding the open borders at the road crossings, there are now border checks, but they are not closed. The free movement granted under the Schengen treaty are temporarily suspended:

https://twitter.com/michaelh992/stat...40697334288384

So yes, France has stepped up border security, but the borders are not closed. You can get in or out.

- skbl17
The murderer on the loose pretty much proved that.
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Old 11-16-2015, 03:27 AM
 
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Seems like some folk expect the US to ban all international arrivals.
Not one person has said that.
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Old 11-16-2015, 03:29 AM
 
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Fascinating at how many think this means "sealed borders".
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Old 11-16-2015, 01:22 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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What more proof do we need that borders need to be closed ASAP. So far the only one who is clear about that is Trump!

Our thought and prayers are for the French and lets hope it will not get worse as it already is.

In the Netherlands the Dutch TV mentioned earlier this week that WWIII already has started... not sure if they are wrong.
Donny's only talked about closing one border, I guess he and his admirers are fine with terrorists crossing the porous Canadian border, eh?
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Old 11-16-2015, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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What more proof do we need that borders need to be closed ASAP. So far the only one who is clear about that is Trump!

Our thought and prayers are for the French and lets hope it will not get worse as it already is.

In the Netherlands the Dutch TV mentioned earlier this week that WWIII already has started... not sure if they are wrong.
No one is saying the borders need to be closed. So why do you think this will help Trump? Is he the only person who thinks this way?
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Old 11-16-2015, 02:01 PM
 
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Yeah that's our only two choices according to the left:

A) Have a border so porous the same guy gets deported 5 times before coming back a sixth time and committing murder.

or

B) NO ONE IS ALLOWED IN. EVER AGAIN.
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