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Old 11-29-2015, 06:37 AM
 
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There were 12,000 people at the Sarasota rally.

Huge turnout. What can the other candidates get? A few hundred? LOL.

People who take time, effort, and energy to go to a campaign rally are also the ones who WILL vote and will convince others to vote for their candidate. This is real grass roots support. None of the other candidates appear to have it.
From a MSNBC article on the '92 elections:

"A national grassroots mobilization ensued and Perot moved up in the polls – fast. By the late spring, he was running in first place. An ABC News/Washington Post poll in early June gave him 36% to Bush’s 30%, with Clinton back at 25%. Pundits teased the possibility of a deadlocked election being thrown to the U.S. House. Others wondered if Perot might just win outright."

Bottom line, it aint over til it's over.
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Old 11-29-2015, 06:41 AM
 
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Bottom line, it aint over til it's over.
Perot withdrew from the race. His momentum was gone when he went back in. Trump isn't going to do this.

On the other hand, if you have no momentum at this late stage, it's extremely hard to get. The fact that no other candidate from either side is holding large rallies speaks volumes about this.
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Old 11-29-2015, 06:46 AM
 
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...90162687549440
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Old 11-29-2015, 07:00 AM
 
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Perot withdrew from the race. His momentum was gone when he went back in. Trump isn't going to do this.

On the other hand, if you have no momentum at this late stage, it's extremely hard to get. The fact that no other candidate from either side is holding large rallies speaks volumes about this.
Late stage??? We're still in the pre-game stage, until we're heading into the primaries and holding the state caucuses, the real campaign hasn't really begun. That's when the big money moves in and Trump will have to start spending much more of his own money and not just toying with controversy and pep rallies. The established party elite don't want Trump, he's a rogue, it will get nasty and just like Perot, they will go after his family if they need to.
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Old 11-29-2015, 07:05 AM
 
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Late stage??? We're still in the pre-game stage, until we're heading into the primaries and holding the state caucuses, the real campaign hasn't really begun. That's when the big money moves in and Trump will have to start spending much more of his own money and not just toying with controversy and pep rallies. The established party elite don't want Trump, he's a rogue, it will get nasty and just like Perot, they will go after his family if they need to.
That's just 67 days away. If they don't have momentum by then, history shows they will never get it. Most will be out of it by Super Tuesday just 90 days from now.

Big Money? This is no issue for Trump. He can outspend them all combined.

About Perot you really have no idea what you are talking about. Perot ran as an independent. It had nothing to do with establishment party elite.
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Old 11-29-2015, 07:32 AM
 
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That's just 67 days away. If they don't have momentum by then, history shows they will never get it. Most will be out of it by Super Tuesday just 90 days from now.

Big Money? This is no issue for Trump. He can outspend them all combined.

About Perot you really have no idea what you are talking about. Perot ran as an independent. It had nothing to do with establishment party elite.
First of all, it's estimated that the presidential campaign will cost over $1B combined, I don't think even Trump wants to spend half of that at the risk of losing, so yeah, there is bigger money than Trump behind the campaigns. As far as Perot, I don't have to be smart enough to figure it out because it has been written about in the years since his candidacy. As a third party candidate he threatened to tip the elections on both the democrat and republican side, Perot has stated that he was coerced to quit the race by republican based operatives and that he got back in to be a spoiler. Trump is a threat to the RNC, they don't want a candidate who won't tow the party line.
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Old 11-29-2015, 07:46 AM
 
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First of all, it's estimated that the presidential campaign will cost over $1B combined, I don't think even Trump wants to spend half of that at the risk of losing, so yeah, there is bigger money than Trump behind the campaigns. As far as Perot, I don't have to be smart enough to figure it out because it has been written about in the years since his candidacy. As a third party candidate he threatened to tip the elections on both the democrat and republican side, Perot has stated that he was coerced to quit the race by republican based operatives and that he got back in to be a spoiler. Trump is a threat to the RNC, they don't want a candidate who won't tow the party line.
(The paragraph is your friend)
  • Your opinion on how much money Trump is willing to risk is irrelevant.
  • You ignore fact that Trump is also receiving huge numbers of individual donations as well. Huge campaign rallies are a sure sign of it. So he doesn't have to spend all his money on election. If it keeps up, he may not have to spend any.
  • Again you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to Perot. You didn't know that he was an independent, didn't know that he withdrew from race, yet you still tried to equate it to Trump's situation now. Totally off-base on that one.
Finally at this point, all the big GOP super pac money is staying out of the race. If you wish to prove otherwise, please do so, but at this point you haven't said anything that refutes what I've said.

Trump is the only candidate who is drawing huge crowds at campaign rallies. That speaks volumes as to who will win the nomination and general election.
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Old 11-29-2015, 07:52 AM
 
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Trump is the only candidate who is drawing huge crowds at campaign rallies. That speaks volumes as to who will win the nomination and general election.
Election over!!! The Trump era is upon us. I'll go tell my hispanic neighbor they'd better start packing.
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Old 11-29-2015, 08:02 AM
 
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I'll go tell my hispanic neighbor they'd better start packing.
you might also want to ridicule your disabled neighbor as well.
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Old 11-29-2015, 08:11 AM
 
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First of all, it's estimated that the presidential campaign will cost over $1B combined, I don't think even Trump wants to spend half of that at the risk of losing, so yeah, there is bigger money than Trump behind the campaigns. As far as Perot, I don't have to be smart enough to figure it out because it has been written about in the years since his candidacy. As a third party candidate he threatened to tip the elections on both the democrat and republican side, Perot has stated that he was coerced to quit the race by republican based operatives and that he got back in to be a spoiler. Trump is a threat to the RNC, they don't want a candidate who won't tow the party line.
Trump has said he will take the RNC's money once he wins the nomination and they get behind him. He won't need to spend $1B. Frankly, he gets all the air time he needs without spending a dime.
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