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Old 12-22-2015, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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I don't care if he apologizes or not. I will say that it would be the right thing to do, but I won't vote for him either way. I wasn't planning on voting for him even before he said this ridiculous lie that he refuses to back down from. It just boggles my mind that some of his supporters defend him so much that they will claim the difference between "thousands" and a few dozen is "not a big deal." Of course it's a big deal.
The fact that Muslims celebrated in sizes that found its way into news articles and police reports is far more consequential that quibbling about numbers. I am sure if he had said tens or hundreds you would now question the veracity of the whole thing. You are very uncomfortable that we now know any Muslim celebrated.
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Old 12-22-2015, 06:22 PM
 
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The fact that Muslims celebrated in sizes that found its way into news articles and police reports is far more consequential that quibbling about numbers. I am sure if he had said tens or hundreds you would now question the veracity of the whole thing. You are very uncomfortable that we now know any Muslim celebrated.
I'm not uncomfortable about anything. If he said a more accurate number, I wouldn't care at all because it's true. I remember scattered reports at the time. None of this makes me uncomfortable.

Again, the numbers do matter. I can't see how people don't see a big deal in a difference between thousands and thousands and maybe 50. Maybe 100 tops. It's an unbelievable discrepancy. He's lying to fit an agenda. He wants people to think the majority of Muslims here are dangerous when that's not the case.
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Old 12-22-2015, 06:30 PM
 
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The fact that Muslims celebrated in sizes that found its way into news articles and police reports is far more consequential that quibbling about numbers. .


Amen. Previously immigrants we graciously allowed in did not plot against us. They reciprocated by becoming valuable US citizens who were as patriotic as they could be.
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Old 12-22-2015, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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The fact that Muslims celebrated in sizes that found its way into news articles and police reports is far more consequential that quibbling about numbers. I am sure if he had said tens or hundreds you would now question the veracity of the whole thing. You are very uncomfortable that we now know any Muslim celebrated.
Always did know that. Never been uncomfortable about it because I know there's a noticeable difference between a few nuts and a serious national threat.
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Old 12-22-2015, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Amen. Previously immigrants we graciously allowed in did not plot against us. They reciprocated by becoming valuable US citizens who were as patriotic as they could be.
Please provide evidence that most muslim immigrants are plotting against the US.

Also, if you think there were no anti-american plotters in previous waves of immigrants, you are deficient in history.

The same thing applies now as then - the actions of a few extremists are not enough to indict a whole group of people. As you note, the US has survived previous such threats just fine. There is no reason to expect anything will be different about today's immigrants.
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Old 12-22-2015, 07:21 PM
 
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Allowing anyone in is a privilege , not a right, so any nations will radicals should have their "citizens" barred from entering our terrific nation.
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Old 12-22-2015, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Amen. Previously immigrants we graciously allowed in did not plot against us. They reciprocated by becoming valuable US citizens who were as patriotic as they could be.
Can you even imagine American Hispanics of today flying B52s on bombing runs over Mexico City?
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Old 12-22-2015, 07:30 PM
 
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Can you even imagine American Hispanics of today flying B52s on bombing runs over Mexico City?

Not for a second.


And in WWII, we had German and Italian Americans fighting against the land of their ancestors..proudly. As should be expected of any immigrant.
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Old 12-22-2015, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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How many Muslims or Middle Easterners live in Jersey City anyway? Not many as far as I know. Parts of Brooklyn have sizable Middle Eastern populations such as Bay Ridge and along Atlantic Ave. Were there any celebrations in these areas? Not that I have heard of. Frankly Trump is full of crap on this one and lying through his teeth.
Patterson, NJ has one of the largest concentrations of Muslims in the Northeast.

So Trump is lying through his teeth? I suppose the retired police chief is lying, as well as all the police officers who acknowledge the celebrations but are afraid to speak publicly about it? Seems the retired police have no trouble, nor do the many eye witnesses reporting what they saw.
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Old 12-22-2015, 08:12 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Patterson, NJ has one of the largest concentrations of Muslims in the Northeast.

So Trump is lying through his teeth? I suppose the retired police chief is lying, as well as all the police officers who acknowledge the celebrations but are afraid to speak publicly about it? Seems the retired police have no trouble, nor do the many eye witnesses reporting what they saw.
I'm not doubting the police captain. But there's a huge difference between what he saw and what Trump claims to have seen. And if Trump is not lying through his teeth then he's the biggest bullsh*tter on the planet.
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