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Old 02-03-2016, 04:14 PM
 
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Tremendous, accurate statement. My exact feelings regarding Cruz, and gang of many on his corrupt team.

SEE Bob Vander Plaats. A total Liar, IMO.
Really, Bob Vander Plaats? You really want to go there? Because Trump was PROVEN to have lied about Bob Vander Plaats. Trump was the one who demanded and received $100K for his appearance at an event.

The Des Moines register has confirmed that Trump charged Peoples Co. (owner Steve Bruere) $100K for his presence at a 2015 conference, which Vander Plaatz had invited Trump to attend after Trump confided his interest in running for President. Payment was made to Trump for $100K. NOT ONE PENNY was paid to Vander Plaatz or to his business from Bueure or Peoples Co.

Additionally, Trump lied about Vander Plaatz with regard to staying at a Trump hotel. Trump INSISTED that Vander Plaatz and his family stay at a Trump hotel and REFUSED payment.

That is what Trump does. He makes like he is a big ole generous guy. But EVERYTHING Trump does comes with strings attached. Vander Plaatz learned the hard way. Trump started a smear campaign against Vander Plaatz after Vander Plaatz endorsed Cruz and not Trump.

Trump takes aim at Bob Vander Plaats

The only total liar is Trump.

 
Old 02-03-2016, 04:19 PM
 
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CARSON ADMITS HIS CAMPAIGN TOLD THE PRESS THAT CARSON WAS GOING TO FLORIDA

Ben Carson Gets Hoisted on His Own Petard, and it Isn't Pretty (VIDEO) | RedState
 
Old 02-03-2016, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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One news source raised the notion that something like 250,000 people attended Trump rallies in Iowa but he got less than 50,000 votes. I have to admit, thst seems fishy. I have attended Trump (and other candidates) rallies in New Hampshire and those who attended were adamant in their support, not just curious folk.
A- the same people attended.
B- they didn't come out to vote.
 
Old 02-03-2016, 04:34 PM
 
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One news source raised the notion that something like 250,000 people attended Trump rallies in Iowa but he got less than 50,000 votes. I have to admit, thst seems fishy. I have attended Trump (and other candidates) rallies in New Hampshire and those who attended were adamant in their support, not just curious folk.
This calls into question the validity of the Feline-O-Meter®.

Mick
 
Old 02-03-2016, 04:34 PM
 
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So you are accusing CNN of colluding with the Cruz campaign? Because CNN made the report. The Cruz camp just tweeted what CNN reported.
That is almost (not entirely, but almost) interesting. The press of course has a lot of leeway in the US. Does a political campaign operate under stricter scrutiny?
 
Old 02-03-2016, 04:38 PM
 
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It is politics as usual and I'm glad that Carson pointed it out and others how low the Cruz camp has handled this and it seems to be how Democrats usually run their side.

I agree with Trump that this is bad and for me it is enough to bring it out in the open and to show how Cruz is trying to win... dirty way of winning.
Eh, Carson has admitted that his campaign told the press that Carson was going to Florida after the caucus and not on to NH and SC.

Seems that Carson's political ineptitude resulted in the Press reporting the story before the caucus and now Carson and Trump are blaming Cruz instead of taking the heat for Carson's own failures!

Ben Carson Gets Hoisted on His Own Petard, and it Isn't Pretty (VIDEO) | RedState
 
Old 02-03-2016, 04:39 PM
 
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Apparently you haven't be following the latest news. That initial rumor was untrue. This has been posted many times. In fact, Bernie won 6 out of 7 coin tosses. Nobody knows exactly how many there were, but so far 14 have been reported by the Democratic Committee.

Coin-Toss Fact Check: No, Coin Flips Did Not Win Iowa For Hillary Clinton : NPR

No, Hillary Clinton did not win Iowa because of a coin flip - CNNPolitics.com
However, the Democrats are refusing to release the raw vote totals and apparently the votes from at least one precinct is missing.

If you are an honest person, you will make not even attempt to refute the observation that the DNC has been doing everything in its power to rig this contest for Hillary Clinton, because it is obvious to everyone, including you, that they have been doing just that. So obviously Bernie Sander's concerns of corruption in the vote counts in Iowa are sufficiently grounded to warrant a responsible and transparent response by the Party here.

Did Hillary or Bernie win this contest? The truth is, we still do not know for sure, and the DNC is impeding any efforts to find out.
 
Old 02-03-2016, 04:40 PM
 
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Cruz will get all the money he needs to defend against Trump's lawsuit from Monsanto.
Trump has a lawsuit from Monsanto?
 
Old 02-03-2016, 04:42 PM
 
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You folks have short memories:

During the 2000 Republican presidential primary, Senator John McCain was the target of a whisper campaign implying that he had fathered a black child out of wedlock. (McCain's adopted daughter is a dark-skinned child from Bangladesh). Voters in South Carolina were reportedly asked, "Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for John McCain if you knew that he fathered an illegitimate black child?" McCain would later lose the South Carolina primary, and the nomination, to George W. Bush.
Did the whispers start from a contemporaneous CNN report, like in this case. A report that Carson now admits came from his own campaign?
 
Old 02-03-2016, 04:46 PM
 
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Eh, Carson has admitted that his campaign told the press that Carson was going to Florida after the caucus and not on to NH and SC.

Seems that Carson's political ineptitude resulted in the Press reporting the story before the caucus and now Carson and Trump are blaming Cruz instead of taking the heat for Carson's own failures!

Ben Carson Gets Hoisted on His Own Petard, and it Isn't Pretty (VIDEO) | RedState
Yes and no, CNN reported that Carson was going home to FL directly from Iowa. Cruz's people said the same thing to their precinct captains. No one said anything about dropping out, it seems, until the news got to the precincts . . . . sounds like some people in Cruz's camp drew an inference about Carson dropping out before the caucus (which makes no sense - who waits to drop out immediately before the voting?).

Mick
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