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You are leaving out the fact that Carson informed everyone he was not getting out of the race, Dirty Trick Ted stole the votes that should have went to Carson .Carson should know what the truth is.
And you keep leaving out the facts that show that "Carson informed EVERYONE" Why do you keep perpetuating that lie? Because you KNOW Cruz did nothing wrong, so you have to manufacture false actions that NEVER happened. Why are you not holding Rubio to the same standard? You and Rove keep ignoring Rubio's same actions. Why?
There is no proof that he didn't steal any votes either, yet the actual "Cheat" suggests that he did steal votes. Remember, you don't need explicit evidence or claims, as long as you have the right way of "Looking at It" according to your own "way of looking" at things, that you keep using.
Like I said before. Lame excuses dude.
So in your world people are guilty until proven innocent and required to prove that they didn't do what they have been accused of? Are you in Iran or North Korea??
There is this thing called "Math." For every vote stolen from Carson, would be "DEDUCTED" from Cruz. Carson gets more Votes, Cruz would have less votes. Get it?
Cruz gets Less votes, he ranks less.
If this was true, where are all the Carson voter who are claiming that Cruz STOLE their votes???
I don't think he has any standing for a lawsuit. He must assume that Carson would have gotten a lot more votes, which is doubtful. From what I have learned, Cruz's tweet didn't go out till just hours before the caucus. How many people got the tweet?
His precinct captains got the tweet from Cruz's campaign, then promptly announced it to their precinct voters at caucus to try to convince them to vote for Cruz instead of Carson.
I understand that, but the problem, for me, is that Carson doesn't appear to have lost any votes. He out-performed all the predictions. What Trump seems to be saying is that he lost by proxy, and without any evidence that Carson lost any votes, Trumps complaints ring hollow, and each time he repeats his complaints, it lacks integrity.
I agree 100%. I was just trying to explain it from Trump logic, which most/many people know is faulty.
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
His precinct captains got the tweet from Cruz's campaign, then promptly announced it to their precinct voters at caucus to try to convince them to vote for Cruz instead of Carson.
Does anyone have a time line on when this happen? At the beginning, middle or end of the caucus?
Dr Carson's campaign is who released the information that rather than heading to New Hampshire he was going home to Florida. While this didn't explicitly say that he was quitting the race, it was suggestive, and in the context of the campaigns, which closely track each other's numbers and funding, the fact is that Dr Carson's polling numbers have been fading, his donations have been falling, he's been spending more than he's taking in, so his war chest is dwindling, and these are all signs of a faltering campaign. In that context, a candidate not heading to the next battleground, but heading home, is very suggestive.
Dr Carson only realized after releasing his itinerary that it could be misunderstood as him suspending his campaign, and he tried to correct this misapprehension, but when you release ambiguous information just prior to the caucuses opening, trying to clarify what you meant while people are actually in the process of caucusing is extremely difficult.
The thing is, Dr Carson out-performed his polling numbers in the Iowa caucuses. There is no evidence that anyone changed their vote away from Carson to another candidate. No evidence of that happening at all.
Trump used this to damage Cruz quite effectively. But this is not an ethical victory for Trump. Trump is keenly aware that Carson got more votes than he was projected to. So it wasn't Carson's supporters that went to Cruz. It was just Trump's supposed supporters who went to Cruz. Trump's implication otherwise is just as unethical as Cruz's actions.
You can figure this out, I can, but his supporters never will. They can't seem to understand there is no way of knowing if Trump would have won or if Dr Carson was hurt in any way. Of course Cruz should have acted quicker, I certainly have little respect for him, but to claim he cost Trump Iowa is sour grapes.
It is interesting to see, both conservatives and liberals here see Trump probably lost nothing, but his supporters will always think only liberals are picking on Trump.
What a sore loser. Trump's response it seems is to just double down on things and never back off.
What ever happened to picking one's battles?
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